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Old May 9, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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That's exactly the type of info I was looking for. You have people saying shouldn't be that different for a stalled auto and others saying can't even use the dyno numbers except for tuning. If the people who build convertors are saying there's a huge discrepency than that's all I need to hear.

That's what I love about the forum, instead of people arguing and no information being exchanged you get great info.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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I dynoed my Nova the other day to see what My converter was flashing to and with
31x13x15 m/t slicks at 11.5psi it dynoed 357rwhp . I tuned it at the track and when on the dyno every thing we did lost hp. Went back to my track tune and redynoed after a lunch break to find 322 rwhp.
I scratched my head along with Geoff at Engine power systems and then found one of my slicks had leaked down to almost flat . It was on the passenger side so we did not see it at first.
After adding air up to 15 psi, I dynoed 389 rwhp. That much increase from 3.5 psi in tires. This was through a 8" converter th350 , 347 c.i Ls1 with 11.63/1 compression.

My converter is only flashing to 4200 when I need a 5500 and I have 14.8% slip in my converter. This motor could see 475 or so with a 6 spd. best time at the track though is 10.68 with crappy 1.53 60 ft. I am sending the converter back to bte to get restalled and set up for my combo.
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Old May 12, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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My car dynoed 330rwhp, I was at the track and decided to run it, it's a convertible without a cage I was told not to run faster than 13.49 I launched the car spun to almost half track, the kind of spinning where the car is accelerating but you feel the car moving around, car really started pulling in the middle, coasted the last couple hundred feet and ran 13.1 @105 2.36 60ft.

running 8lbs boost, 3200 stall, 3.73 gears.

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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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I just had my car on the dyno this past Sat. I have a small converter vig 2800.

N/A 379.5 rwhp unlocked
N2O 643.7 rwhp unlocked
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mike13
My car dynoed 330rwhp, I was at the track and decided to run it, it's a convertible without a cage I was told not to run faster than 13.49 I launched the car spun to almost half track, the kind of spinning where the car is accelerating but you feel the car moving around, car really started pulling in the middle, coasted the last couple hundred feet and ran 13.1 @105 2.36 60ft.

running 8lbs boost, 3200 stall, 3.73 gears.
I would say spinning half the track and the coasting the last couple 100 feet and still getting that time you have plenty there lol
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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When my car was automatic it was yanked and dynoed 317/316. Following day I took it to the track and ran the best of 12.2 @110.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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when my car was bolt ons, VIG3600, stock internal i dynoed 366/399, and the ran an 11.8@118 at hallsville raceway in texas during the summer. i've never been worried about dyno #'s, car next to me might make 420/395 i'll shrug it off and walk the opposing car by 3 lengths.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FTICONVERTERS
converters will not shine on the dyno. For example we have customers making 550 to the tire in 3400 lb car but runs mid 8's on Drag radials.

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Here is a perfect example. Our bracket C5 with a FTI 4000 dynos 340 RWHP, but runs 11 flat in good air. Greg has it right, use the dyno to get the tune right & hit the track for the real results. I usually estimate a 30-35% percent reduction on a good loose TC on the dyno from the actual flywheel. We had a 8-71 blown pro street on the other day that dynoed over 1000 on the engine dyno, and only 720 on the chassis dyno through a 5000 stall.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 01:49 AM
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to all ya'll stalled A4 guys like myself dont get too caught up on the dyno numbers..TAKE IT TO THE TRACK THATS WHERE OUR CARS SHINE!!!!!!

P.S WISH ME LUCK GUYS DOING MY THIRD TOUR IN IRAQ AGAIN...
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ws6 racer
to all ya'll stalled A4 guys like myself dont get too caught up on the dyno numbers..TAKE IT TO THE TRACK THATS WHERE OUR CARS SHINE!!!!!!

P.S WISH ME LUCK GUYS DOING MY THIRD TOUR IN IRAQ AGAIN...
infantry leads the way baby!!!!!
Good luck and thanks for all you do for the country, we really appreciate it!!!!!!!

Chris
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Can someone tell me if it's a bad thing to lock the converter on the dyno? It should be kept unlocked correct?


Originally Posted by ws6 racer
to all ya'll stalled A4 guys like myself dont get too caught up on the dyno numbers..TAKE IT TO THE TRACK THATS WHERE OUR CARS SHINE!!!!!!

P.S WISH ME LUCK GUYS DOING MY THIRD TOUR IN IRAQ AGAIN...
infantry leads the way baby!!!!!
Stay safe!
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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WS6racer stay safe, over half of my car buddies are military and it really hits home when they get deployed.

allbaugh unless it's a convertor designed to be locked at wot don't do it. Lock up clutches are notrious for being weak.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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So a Yank SS3600 single disk is not a good idea....thanks mike.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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No I wouldn't do it, smaller dia. convertors have less friction material on the clutch. As far as I know it takes a multi disk set up.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
Can someone tell me if it's a bad thing to lock the converter on the dyno? It should be kept unlocked correct?




Stay safe!
Some people do it, There is risk involved. The lockup clutch area is a fraction of what a manual trans clutch has. Yet when you lock at WOT on the dyno you are asking it to do the same job.
We have had many people do it however with both our billet and non billet converter and have not had it fail. But IMO if you dont have a multi disc converter its not a real good idea.
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Locking the converter at WOT is not a risk I'm willing to take.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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thanks guys for showing your support..i'll do my best to get back home..all i ask is for ya'll to keep kicking mustang ***,and drink a beer for us every now and then...
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Originally Posted by ws6 racer
thanks guys for showing your support..i'll do my best to get back home..all i ask is for ya'll to keep kicking mustang ***,and drink a beer for us every now and then...
I will gladly do the honors of drinking a beer for you. Thanks to all of you American Soldiers.
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both of my converters have been locked on the dyno multiple times...

409rwhp A4 cam only
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Can anyone answer me why anyone cares about dyno numbers? It doesn't show how fast the car is in real life and anyone can manipulate dyno numbers. The time is what matters either on a straight track or one with turns. If you want a dyno number go ahead and dyno a Semitruck motor.
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