Help with Swapping TH400 into LS1.
12-10-2003, 10:44 PM
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Help with Swapping TH400 into LS1. Hey guys, we are swapping out the 4L60E in our 98 LS1 for a manual valvebody race prepped TH400. Good News is it won't blow up. If anyone can let me in on all the Bad News of what we need to do so that things work properly, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Rick @ STS
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Thanks in advance, Rick @ STS
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12-11-2003, 07:38 AM
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The Chevy version of the TH400 will bolt right to the block minus one bolt, but many are running big power this way with no issues.
-Obviously, you can't use a standard torque converter, you need one with the correct hub and bolt pattern for the LS1 flex plate. Most vendors know what to do.
-You can actually use the stock A4 shifter with a little grinding of the shifter plate to rearrange the gates. And then weld a stop to keep the shifter from going all the way back to the last position.
-The cable bracket under the car will work also, but will need to be modified to fit the TH400 pan. New ones are only $6 from GM
-If you get a short tailshaft version, the mount will line up perfectly with a 6-speed cross member, but don't forget a urethane mount for TH400
-You will need a special sppedo sending unit to make the speedo work
-You will need a custom driveshaft
-Would not worry about the dust cover
-You need a dipstick; Madman sells a steel tube with dipstick for the TH400 that looks like a factory tube; ore use a Lokar braided one (but they are kind of short) - Recommend Madmans version if all the stuff is still under the hood (lots of clutter)
-An external tranny cooler would be good
That's all I can come up with for now
-Obviously, you can't use a standard torque converter, you need one with the correct hub and bolt pattern for the LS1 flex plate. Most vendors know what to do.
-You can actually use the stock A4 shifter with a little grinding of the shifter plate to rearrange the gates. And then weld a stop to keep the shifter from going all the way back to the last position.
-The cable bracket under the car will work also, but will need to be modified to fit the TH400 pan. New ones are only $6 from GM
-If you get a short tailshaft version, the mount will line up perfectly with a 6-speed cross member, but don't forget a urethane mount for TH400
-You will need a special sppedo sending unit to make the speedo work
-You will need a custom driveshaft
-Would not worry about the dust cover
-You need a dipstick; Madman sells a steel tube with dipstick for the TH400 that looks like a factory tube; ore use a Lokar braided one (but they are kind of short) - Recommend Madmans version if all the stuff is still under the hood (lots of clutter)
-An external tranny cooler would be good
That's all I can come up with for now
12-11-2003, 08:55 AM
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Yes. Since you are already an A4, the PCM needs to be addressed with LS1 edit. Have never done this though. Every car I have seen converted, including mine, started as a 6-speed.
The car will not move if you don't address the PCM. There are "tranny trickers" avaialble also.
The car will not move if you don't address the PCM. There are "tranny trickers" avaialble also.
12-11-2003, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Reckless
The Chevy version of the TH400 will bolt right to the block minus one bolt, but many are running big power this way with no issues.
-Obviously, you can't use a standard torque converter, you need one with the correct hub and bolt pattern for the LS1 flex plate. Most vendors know what to do.
-You can actually use the stock A4 shifter with a little grinding of the shifter plate to rearrange the gates. And then weld a stop to keep the shifter from going all the way back to the last position.
-The cable bracket under the car will work also, but will need to be modified to fit the TH400 pan. New ones are only $6 from GM
-If you get a short tailshaft version, the mount will line up perfectly with a 6-speed cross member, but don't forget a urethane mount for TH400
-You will need a special sppedo sending unit to make the speedo work
-You will need a custom driveshaft
-Would not worry about the dust cover
-You need a dipstick; Madman sells a steel tube with dipstick for the TH400 that looks like a factory tube; ore use a Lokar braided one (but they are kind of short) - Recommend Madmans version if all the stuff is still under the hood (lots of clutter)
-An external tranny cooler would be good
That's all I can come up with for now
-Obviously, you can't use a standard torque converter, you need one with the correct hub and bolt pattern for the LS1 flex plate. Most vendors know what to do.
-You can actually use the stock A4 shifter with a little grinding of the shifter plate to rearrange the gates. And then weld a stop to keep the shifter from going all the way back to the last position.
-The cable bracket under the car will work also, but will need to be modified to fit the TH400 pan. New ones are only $6 from GM
-If you get a short tailshaft version, the mount will line up perfectly with a 6-speed cross member, but don't forget a urethane mount for TH400
-You will need a special sppedo sending unit to make the speedo work
-You will need a custom driveshaft
-Would not worry about the dust cover
-You need a dipstick; Madman sells a steel tube with dipstick for the TH400 that looks like a factory tube; ore use a Lokar braided one (but they are kind of short) - Recommend Madmans version if all the stuff is still under the hood (lots of clutter)
-An external tranny cooler would be good
That's all I can come up with for now
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Originally Posted by Reckless
-Obviously, you can't use a standard torque converter, you need one with the correct hub and bolt pattern for the LS1 flex plate. Most vendors know what to do.
12-12-2003, 06:05 AM
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The real problem with not using a LS1 TH400 torque converter is the center hub is not long enough to protrude into the end of the crankshaft. This hub is what centers the torque converter on the flexplate, I would be very concerned about ensuring the torque converter is truly centered with the crank.
Any torque converter manufacturer can extend the hub to ensure it works properly.
Ryan K.
Any torque converter manufacturer can extend the hub to ensure it works properly.
Ryan K.
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How do you get the speedo and other accessories to work? I have the M6 and will be doing the swap soon. i am sewriously looking at doing the Gear Vendors overdrive unit in it though. Not too sure I want the extra 100lbs of a TH400 over a TH350 though.
What do you guys think is there anyone here using the Gear Vendors OD unit?
What do you guys think is there anyone here using the Gear Vendors OD unit?
