4000 stall? come on in!!!
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For the record, I drove a SS4000 untuned for months and it didn't hit the rev limiter at all. And also for the record, SS4000 is an extremely streetable converter for a stock cammed car. I started with a 3500 and the streetability was identical between the two. All the gains were at WOT. Shift extension was 4900 with stock shift points.
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you can take a bone stock car with a stock cam, 2.73's put a stall in and run 11.9? That's amazing since the fastest stock ls1 car ever went was 12.9 and most run 13.6.
So a stall will take a full second off? Then why are all the people on here only saying a stall is good for .2-.5 seconds.
So a stall will take a full second off? Then why are all the people on here only saying a stall is good for .2-.5 seconds.
Originally Posted by Aaron91RS
You know what screw it. Listen to all these people who can't read what you wrote and base their opinions on things that aren't.
Put a 4000 stall in on a stock cammed, untuned car.
Watch as it roasts the tires off the line not moving, finally starts to go a bit, then the cam peter's out until it shifts only to have it bounce off the rev limiter each time.
Yeah you'll be faster
Put a 4000 stall in on a stock cammed, untuned car.
Watch as it roasts the tires off the line not moving, finally starts to go a bit, then the cam peter's out until it shifts only to have it bounce off the rev limiter each time.
Yeah you'll be faster
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My car is driven every single day with the PT4000 and drives as smooth or smoother than stock at part throttle and screams at WOT. My wife even takes it to the grocery store and doctor's appointments; she normally drives a Ford Freestyle. Yes, I have tuned it to death with HPT but many of the key settings can be made with a used $100 handheld or a mail order tune.
Have you ever done this? I considered trying it to see how it would react, more so out of curiosity.
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I would like to hear the exact details of this...that is hard to believe with Street Radials. I would be thrilled if I could get remotely close to that. How wide were the tires...was the converter loaded...details, details .
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If you have a track only car, there is no need for a lock-up. It is just extra weight. If you have a street car and would like to achieve the best possible MPGs from your set-up then you want a lock-up. I believe this applies to most performance applications but I am not an expert.
There are some applications where the car will be quicker by locking up the converter while racing (1/4 mile). From a few posts I have seen on here, it sounds like it is not too common to improve your times when locking up...plus you should have a "performance" set-up for the lock-up disc.
There are some applications where the car will be quicker by locking up the converter while racing (1/4 mile). From a few posts I have seen on here, it sounds like it is not too common to improve your times when locking up...plus you should have a "performance" set-up for the lock-up disc.
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As for a bigger stall...if you plan on significant upgrades (220+ cam, etc) in the future then you would be saving money by going with the larger stall now.
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What rpm do you see at part throttle cruising? Specifically thats what I was refering to as non-stock driveability. I also have a loud exhaust so its no hiding the big converter. But going strickly by feel and not by sound, yes it will drive just like stock with just more throttle input needed to attain the same speed. Once your right foot gets "calibrated" it feels stockish.
Have you ever done this? I considered trying it to see how it would react, more so out of curiosity.
Have you ever done this? I considered trying it to see how it would react, more so out of curiosity.
I haven't had street radials on this car since installing the converter, but my 1998 went 1.82 with a Vig 2800, lid, 3.23s, and a dead hook. I have no doubt that more converter would have netted a better 60 ft, but I never replaced it before selling the car. This was on Pirelli P7000 all season tires.
Correct, but I can't remember which years have which behavior. My 2002 holds 2nd with the selector in 2nd, but my 1998 didn't and started in 1st with the selector in 2nd.
Most street cars want a lockup TC, drag cars usually don't need/want it.