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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Im looking for the fastest 4L60e car in the world. I know about Steve Dumlers LPE built car that went 8.95@153. Is there anyone else out there that has bested this?
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Not sure but from what I have heard that car only did that once. IMO you need to back it up with a second pass. From what I was told that car broke a bunch of rear ends and transmissions trying to get there. Not trying to bash them because it is quite a accomplishment but not a record IMO. I know of a few fast vets that have run between 9.2X to 9.xx with back to back runs. I know there is a blue one from Canada that is very close the last time I talked to one of my buddies in Indy.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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i trapped high 130s/ high 9's for over 2 years without a hiccup...finally broke the output shaft
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince @ FLT
Not sure but from what I have heard that car only did that once. IMO you need to back it up with a second pass. From what I was told that car broke a bunch of rear ends and transmissions trying to get there. Not trying to bash them because it is quite a accomplishment but not a record IMO. I know of a few fast vets that have run between 9.2X to 9.xx with back to back runs. I know there is a blue one from Canada that is very close the last time I talked to one of my buddies in Indy.
That would be me Vince-lol! I ran a 9.04 and 9.09 with horrible sixty foots in the 1.45-1.49.

I just couldn't get the rear suspension right and kept taking power out so she would hook but never succeeded.

I'm confident the car will run at least an 8.80 or faster this season.

The tranny is from RPM transmissions and has 3 seasons on it running 9's, it also has over 25 passes running 9.1's to 9.3's. RPM is one badass tranny company-there one hell of a group of guys to deal with.

I hear Vince@FLT builds a badd *** tranny too.

FWIW, the LPE car was not really a 4 speed, it had 4th gear pulled out to make it live.
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eb02z06@ChampionMotors
That would be me Vince-lol! I ran a 9.04 and 9.09 with horrible sixty foots in the 1.45-1.49.

I just couldn't get the rear suspension right and kept taking power out so she would hook but never succeeded.

I'm confident the car will run at least an 8.80 or faster this season. The tranny is from RPM transmissions and has 3 seasons on it running 9's, it also has over 25 passes running 9.1's to 9.3's. RPM is one badass tranny company-there one hell of a group of guys to deal with.

I hear Vince@FLT builds a badd *** tranny too.

FWIW, the LPE car was not really a 4 speed, it had 4th gear pulled out to make it live.
Yep, I think you can do that easy with some suspension upgrades. You would've had a 8.9x if you didn't lift during those low 9 runs.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by eb02z06@ChampionMotors

FWIW, the LPE car was not really a 4 speed, it had 4th gear pulled out to make it live.
Not true it was a Rossler built 4L60E with functioning overdrive, the car ran 8.95 with Matt Hartford driving and on the same day John Kiewicz (Formerly of Motor Trend) drove it in the 9.1XX range, in 2002. Furthermore John Kiewicz also drove it to a 9.14 in Bowling Green KY in 2003.

Yes the transmission did break often, but thanks to cars like this, transmission developments have come a long way since, e.g. this car led directly to the hardened input and output shafts we all benefit from today.


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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by eb02z06@ChampionMotors
That would be me Vince-lol! I ran a 9.04 and 9.09 with horrible sixty foots in the 1.45-1.49.

I just couldn't get the rear suspension right and kept taking power out so she would hook but never succeeded.

I'm confident the car will run at least an 8.80 or faster this season.

The tranny is from RPM transmissions and has 3 seasons on it running 9's, it also has over 25 passes running 9.1's to 9.3's. RPM is one badass tranny company-there one hell of a group of guys to deal with.

I hear Vince@FLT builds a badd *** tranny too.

FWIW, the LPE car was not really a 4 speed, it had 4th gear pulled out to make it live.
you gonna bring that beast back to mir this year?
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Originally Posted by Graham Behan
Not true it was a Rossler built 4L60E with functioning overdrive, the car ran 8.95 with Matt Hartford driving and on the same day John Kiewicz (Formerly of Motor Trend) drove it in the 9.1XX range, in 2002. Furthermore John Kiewicz also drove it to a 9.14 in Bowling Green KY in 2003.

Yes the transmission did break often, but thanks to cars like this, transmission developments have come a long way since, e.g. this car led directly to the hardened input and output shafts we all benefit from today.


Graham.
You know the funny thing is I ran low 9's all season and the 9.04 WITHOUT the hardened output shafts. I think the reason is cause I could only leave off idle and even then I would have to lift at times when the slicks would break loose.

We've got some tricks planned that's going to allow us to leave with some rpm this season.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Graham Behan
Not true it was a Rossler built 4L60E with functioning overdrive, the car ran 8.95 with Matt Hartford driving and on the same day John Kiewicz (Formerly of Motor Trend) drove it in the 9.1XX range, in 2002. Furthermore John Kiewicz also drove it to a 9.14 in Bowling Green KY in 2003.

Yes the transmission did break often, but thanks to cars like this, transmission developments have come a long way since, e.g. this car led directly to the hardened input and output shafts we all benefit from today.


Graham.
Hey Graham its time to bring that beast back out. I can't wait to see what the LPE crew can do with this car with the technology the entire industry has progressed in the last 8 years. Simply amazing what John and crew did 8 years ago.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eb02z06@ChampionMotors
You know the funny thing is I ran low 9's all season and the 9.04 WITHOUT the hardened output shafts. I think the reason is cause I could only leave off idle and even then I would have to lift at times when the slicks would break loose.

We've got some tricks planned that's going to allow us to leave with some rpm this season.
Guess you missed the point, this car did not have hardened output shafts when it ran the numbers, only led to that development and many others, back in 02.

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So as of right now eb02z06@ChampionMotors is the fastest that we know of with a 9.04? Lets keep the info rolling.
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Originally Posted by YellowB4Z
So as of right now eb02z06@ChampionMotors is the fastest that we know of with a 9.04? Lets keep the info rolling.
Unless I am "seriously" mathematically challenged, an 8.95 ET is "Quicker" than a 9.04????

After 7+ years, it's about time someone beat that, what do you think??

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Well just a little FYI to obtain a record you have to back up the record pass with another similar time and 9.1X isnt gonna cut it. Arun has went 9.0 more than once. Looks like you need to get Steve's car back to the track and eun some back to back 8.90s to solidify the record.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowB4Z
Well just a little FYI to obtain a record you have to back up the record pass with another similar time and 9.1X isnt gonna cut it. Arun has went 9.0 more than once. Looks like you need to get Steve's car back to the track and eun some back to back 8.90s to solidify the record.
Oh gosh! I did not realize we were playing by NHRA rules. I guess it's a good job LPE owns the car now.

See Ya.

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Originally Posted by Graham Behan
Oh gosh! I did not realize we were playing by NHRA rules. I guess it's a good job LPE owns the car now.

See Ya.

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Graham,

No disrespect was intended by my previous post. I was posting from my phone and done a poor job wording and reviewing my post and it came off as more d-bag than anything.

I was expecting a little rise out of you but not so much a negative or disrespected one. I was more hopeing for you to come back and say it was gonna see some track time this year. Im glad its owned by LPE now. Id love to see it get some more track time utilizing the latest technology like Rodney said. But Im sure you are focusing your attention on the ZR1. Hopefully it will get back to the track soon and chip deeper into the 8 second zone.
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I actually would have to say YellowB4Z is right on this one. There have been a bunch of times in history that a car ran a super quick number and didnt run anywhere near that number the same weekend or in the near future.

One example that comes to mind is Steve Jackson in the outlaw drag radial scene. He ran 4.53@170+ in a run at night in mineshaft conditions. The rest of the weekend he either pulled a wheelstand or spun somewhere down track. Does he have the fastest run? Yes. Does he have the record? No. I would say he is the quickest man on a small tire but he is definately not the most consistent.

That pertains to this case as the fastest car is not the most consistent.
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