stall or gears for DD?
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stall or gears for DD? I have a bolt on 01 trans am. Im thinking about stall or gears for my next mod. Car is a daily driver and currently has 3.23 gears. Would you guys say 3.73's or a stall would be more fun for daily drivin. Or would you leave it as is? Either mod would not be aimed toward 1/4 mi #'s but for around town fun. If stall what size?
Definitely stall over gears....I'm currently running a Circle D 5000 stall with 3.23's and it's very streetable. I'd suggest something in the 4000 range for a bolt-on car; it allows a lot of room to grow for future mods.
I've seen Yank mentioned above, and they certainly make a hell of a product. I'd also suggest talking to Chris at Circle D. Either company will give you the highest quality converter you can get. Good luck!
I've seen Yank mentioned above, and they certainly make a hell of a product. I'd also suggest talking to Chris at Circle D. Either company will give you the highest quality converter you can get. Good luck!
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It is never to late to add a stall, just know that a built trans might be right around the corner. If you add a big cooler and a good tune, you never know. I have seen some fail right away do to the extra torque multiplication the stall adds and some last for 10s of thousand of miles. I personally think the ones that fail were on there last leg to begin with.
As far as how high, depends on what you are doing. DD something in the 3600 range. More track oriented 4000 range.
Chris
As far as how high, depends on what you are doing. DD something in the 3600 range. More track oriented 4000 range.
Chris
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stall= more fun that gears, period.
stall is the best mod for an automatic, period
youll be amazed at how well the 3.23 gear will do.
I did a 2.73 gear with 3800 for a long time and it was great.
stall is the best mod for an automatic, period
youll be amazed at how well the 3.23 gear will do.
I did a 2.73 gear with 3800 for a long time and it was great.
Had a 96 SS LT1 with boltons. Went with 3.73 gears first that was nice and later added a 2800 precision vigilante and that made a huge diffrence. I wish the coverter was the first mod i made. I daily drove the car so i say stall that SOB.
I would definitely get the converter first. If you choose to do the converter the next question I would ask yourself is if you plan to add a cam later down the road.
If you plan to keep stock cam and want a converter for the street I would lean toward a 3600 converter. If you plan to change out the cam for something more aggressive say a 230+ duration I would lean toward a 4000 converter.
If you plan to keep stock cam and want a converter for the street I would lean toward a 3600 converter. If you plan to change out the cam for something more aggressive say a 230+ duration I would lean toward a 4000 converter.
Get Stalled!! Im daily driving mine with a Performabuilt Level 2 trans, and their 4k stall, with 3.73s. Ive never driven a stock stalled/geared car, so i cant tell you how i think they compare, but i will say the 4k stall and built trans are FUN AS HELL!!!
That's a good question....depends on the condition of the tranny. Your safest bet would obviously be to have yours built, then throw in the new converter. Putting a new converter in an old tranny could potentially result in having to replace both as a fried tranny tends to take the converter with it. However, if you're a gambling man, plenty of folks have put a performance converter in a high-mileage tranny and had no issues at all. If you're going to take that route, just invest in a tranny temp gauge and a big cooler and make sure the temps don't get out of hand.
FWIW if my car came with 3.23 gears I would never have swapped them out. My car came with 2.73s so I swapped in a complete 3.42 rear (only .19 steeper than 3.23).
I had a Yank 2800 converter installed in my car at over 150k and up to that point the trans had never had any issues at all; it started failing a few months later and completely tanked (no 3rd or 4th) at 173k. Of course with that many miles it's impossible to say if the stall hastened the 4L60E's demise, as a lot of completely stock trannies in stock cars have had to be rebuilt with fewer miles than that.
I had a Yank 2800 converter installed in my car at over 150k and up to that point the trans had never had any issues at all; it started failing a few months later and completely tanked (no 3rd or 4th) at 173k. Of course with that many miles it's impossible to say if the stall hastened the 4L60E's demise, as a lot of completely stock trannies in stock cars have had to be rebuilt with fewer miles than that.