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Old 04-24-2010, 04:13 PM
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Question HELP!!! 3rd and 4th not catching

I'm in need of some help guys.I have a A4 and my 1st and 2nd work just fine but once it hits 3rd it just stays put and acts like it in nutral. I checked my fluids and it was just touching the dipstick so I added some fluids in but nothing got better, though it did smelled burnt. any help in what it could be? do I need a rebuild or do I need to swap trannys? thanks for any help
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sounds like the clutch packs are burnt... i just rebuilt my fianees 4l60e and have a dvd that shows you step by step how to rebuild one if your interested.
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did it do the thing mine is doing and are the clutch packs pricey? and yeah i might be interested if thats my problem.
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does it eventually go into 3rd?? if its just a delayed shift then it sounds like your in need of atleast a shift kit to cure the problem for now... but your probly going to need a freshing up soon!
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Originally Posted by StrokedEVO
does it eventually go into 3rd?? if its just a delayed shift then it sounds like your in need of atleast a shift kit to cure the problem for now... but your probly going to need a freshing up soon!
well i have to make the rpms jump up to 3 or 4k and then it jumps forward then reves up again and doesnt move. so should a simple rebuild do the trick?
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yep mine did the same thing... turns out my 3-4 clutches & steels were roasted, check ball was stuck, and the pump bushing was a little worn... the master rebuild kit is only $150 including the clutches, steels, bushings, gaskets, and seals...

it was a very easy rebuild, just got it put back in tonight and it works like a champ!

try replacing the fluid and filter befor you get to excited.... also while the pan is off check your solenoids with an ohm meter.
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I had something like this happen in my old auto firebird. Turned out to be a clogged cat... kept the RPM's from going real high and shifting into gear...
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Originally Posted by 1BAD_LS1 Tunes
yep mine did the same thing... turns out my 3-4 clutches & steels were roasted, check ball was stuck, and the pump bushing was a little worn... the master rebuild kit is only $150 including the clutches, steels, bushings, gaskets, and seals...

it was a very easy rebuild, just got it put back in tonight and it works like a champ!

try replacing the fluid and filter befor you get to excited.... also while the pan is off check your solenoids with an ohm meter.
Is this master rebuild kit hard to install do i need to take out the tranny or can it stay put? where is the solenoids?
Originally Posted by Soul TKR
I had something like this happen in my old auto firebird. Turned out to be a clogged cat... kept the RPM's from going real high and shifting into gear...
Well I dont have cats anymore so that cant be my problem.
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Originally Posted by Bro Inc
Don't waste money on a fluid swap, don't ohm the solenoids. A shift kit is the absolute best way to waste your time and money right now.

Unplug the electrical connector and try to drive it.
Unplugging the electrical puts it in 3rd (no voltage to either solenoid) and puts it at max line pressure.


It's still going to slip most likely. Every transmission I ever took apart that had a neutral 2-3 ended up having worn 3-4 clutches.
where is all of this stuff, I dont know jack about trasmission.
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If you dont know what or where a solenoid is DO NOT ATEMPT a rebuild on your own , either have someone do it or gte a trans allready done from a vendor here or if the buget is really low go for used. Not the best choice IMO never had much luck with used trans but better than attempting to build a trans wwhen you know absolutly nothing about them.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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Originally Posted by performabuilt
If you dont know what or where a solenoid is DO NOT ATEMPT a rebuild on your own , either have someone do it or gte a trans allready done from a vendor here or if the buget is really low go for used. Not the best choice IMO never had much luck with used trans but better than attempting to build a trans wwhen you know absolutly nothing about them.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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Do you guys rebuild trannys too or do you guys just sell them?
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We sell them out right or rebuild yours the price however is the same due to the additional shipping involved to build yours.
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So I took it for a spin again and found out that it only 3rd gear that doesnt work if I manualy shift and stay in second until 3k I shifts to 3rd and just revs up the I shift to D and revs up to 3k and then it kicks in. is it still the clutch packs?
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i lost 3rd and 4th gears. im getting mine hooked up by a local trans builder.
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Originally Posted by f-body_racer99
So I took it for a spin again and found out that it only 3rd gear that doesnt work if I manualy shift and stay in second until 3k I shifts to 3rd and just revs up the I shift to D and revs up to 3k and then it kicks in. is it still the clutch packs?
Judging by your last few posts i think you might just be best off to buy a trans form one of the sponsors.... not trying to be an ***...

There are a few sponsors on here that have an excellent reputation... give them a call and see what they can do! buy a built one so you only have to buy it once!!!
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
i lost 3rd and 4th gears. im getting mine hooked up by a local trans builder.
What are they going to do to it? was it expensive?
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Originally Posted by 1BAD_LS1 Tunes
Judging by your last few posts i think you might just be best off to buy a trans form one of the sponsors.... not trying to be an ***...

There are a few sponsors on here that have an excellent reputation... give them a call and see what they can do! buy a built one so you only have to buy it once!!!
I really dont have the money to spend that much so a rebuild is my only option.
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Ok so i found out the problem and they told me its going to cost 1900 for the rebuild and one year warrenty any good?
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Originally Posted by f-body_racer99
What are they going to do to it? was it expensive?
complete upgrade. he mentioned new sunshell i think, upgraded servo, planetaries though he said theyre expensive as ****. guy has been rebuilding trans for over 20 yrs. yes, its going to cost me big.
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Originally Posted by Bro Inc
So what are they going to do?

If you could replace the transmission yourself, and get a new converter and cooler. You'd be better off with one of these.
http://www.finishlinetrans.com/trans...rmance4L60.htm
http://shop.performabuilt.com/LEVEL-...4L60EL2LS1.htm
http://www.pszweb.com/cpt/700.htm
I just found this other transmission shop and will do the master rebuild and charge 1300 I think this will do



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