Trans Go, TCI 3500 and TM ??????????
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Trans Go, TCI 3500 and TM ?????????? I am about to get a Trans Go shift kit, TCI SSF 3500, and a 24000 Cooler... but I have a question. After I do all of that, I will not have the money for a predator. I was reading about the Trans Go kit, and they tell you that on 00-02 cars the shift kit may cause TM issues. My question is, after I install the TC and shift kit, is it going to need any tuning at all???? Is my car going to pull timing on the shifts?? I heard that I will need to adjust my shift points and rev limiter, because the TC may cause it to hit the limiter on the shifts. Is that true??? should I get the Shift kit, and a predator now, then get the stall later??
Thanks for all your help... I will getting it all in a couple of weeks.
Thanks for all your help... I will getting it all in a couple of weeks.
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i'd say get the predator that way when u do get ur stall u have alot more options to play w/ and tune to get her running right........by i adjusting my points and timing i went from 13.4-13.1......not bad for only a 5rwhp w/ the tune
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well, when i do a burn out now to heat my DR's, they start to spin pretty good, then it shifts into 2nd and the tires almost stop spinning. I was told that it was caused by TM, but im not sure... Also, one more question... How efficent is the TCI 3500??? I trap 108 on my 12.8-12.9 passes with the stock stall and 16" 555R DR's. what do you think i will trap after the TC is in? I figure I should be at 12.4, but I would like to trap 110mph at least.
when doin a burn out spin it just a tad in the water, then put it in 2nd and then do it... i dont know about 00-02's but the 98's when you put them in 2 it starts out in second and isnt such a strain on the 1-2 shift, so ive been told
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I just installed a tci ssf stall in my '02 camaro when it shifts it feels like it is slipping sometimes. When it feels like it shifts right it will have a pause in the shift is this TM
I'm getting a shift kit put in it will this help? I also have 3.23 gears will 3.73 help any?
I'm getting a shift kit put in it will this help? I also have 3.23 gears will 3.73 help any?
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I dunno but even when i'm like 10% TPS i can feel the shift out of first gear at very low mph, it feels likes a THUD, but the loose verter dampens the shift.
I'll have to log my car to see how much torque management was deleted. Should be easy nuff with efilive 6.3..
Watch the RPM/MPH/TIMING
I'll have to log my car to see how much torque management was deleted. Should be easy nuff with efilive 6.3..
Watch the RPM/MPH/TIMING
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Originally Posted by Brasher's LS1
I just installed a tci ssf stall in my '02 camaro when it shifts it feels like it is slipping sometimes. When it feels like it shifts right it will have a pause in the shift is this TM
I'm getting a shift kit put in it will this help? I also have 3.23 gears will 3.73 help any?
I'm getting a shift kit put in it will this help? I also have 3.23 gears will 3.73 help any?
I suffered with this crap for 3 weeks and smartend up and had the car dyno tuned, and all the problems have been solved, the vehicle has never run better.
This is what the dyno tuner told me:
On 2001 & 2002 model cars, with any change of TC over 3000 stall, the stock shift points the PCM uses will no longer work, and the TM only adds to the misery.
Have the car tuned after the TC change, it will save you alot of headaches.
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[QUOTE=SteveC] and having the pleasure of driving home on the freeway at 60MPH turning 4200RPM (have 3.73's) because the converter would not lock up (my all time personal favorite).
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what caused the converter not to lock up? after the tune it locked up fine???
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what caused the converter not to lock up? after the tune it locked up fine???
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[QUOTE=JustAnotherSS] I do not know, I am guessing it was the shift points rather than the TM, because at higher RPM I would guess there is increased line pressure.
I'm just VERY happy it has not done this since the tune.
SteveC
Originally Posted by SteveC
and having the pleasure of driving home on the freeway at 60MPH turning 4200RPM (have 3.73's) because the converter would not lock up (my all time personal favorite).
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what caused the converter not to lock up? after the tune it locked up fine???
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what caused the converter not to lock up? after the tune it locked up fine???
I'm just VERY happy it has not done this since the tune.
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Please educate me a little: I am just getting into the hop up of a 4L60E and I need some clarification on terms and problems. I have been reading all of your discussions on this site and also "dos and don'ts in some magazines. Stropes speed shop and SLP state that unless you want to do serious tranny rework and tuning then keep your stall to 3300 or just less, anything over 3400 and the computer needs a re-calibration. Now for what I read in this forum---Talk to me about TM (what are you referring to)? I want to put in a TRansgo kit, as a matter of fact I have one in my '95 Impala SS, however, I apparently have not taken that transmission to the edge you guys have. I am presently going to put a LS-1 motor/4L60 E in a '68 Chevy pickup streetrod. Before it goes in, I want to tune the tranny up for better shifting and performance. I want to change the converter to a better stall to support the 3:73 gears in the back. I would appreciate anything that you guys can tell me about the experiences you have had. Thanks
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my car goes to 0 degrees of timing on each upshift at wot. That would be one of the nifty features of torque management, to save your tranny's ***. I was gonna nuke it, but then after my 4th pass @ 12.1,i realize might as well leave it alone and hit them 12.0's (not interested in cage). So ymmv, some do it, some don't. IIRC the only wayto prevent this to prevent the motor's ability to retard timing under all cases at the shift point rpm range @wot for all gears. So if you have some crap gas, get on it, then you might pay the price of enforcing timing to the motor that might not be healthy?
that was my big concern, never know when you get some bad gas, its a hot day, and you need to lay into it. If you force enough timing under bad conditions your pistons will eventually break.
Maybe i'm wrong but thats what i gather from searching and asking about the timing retard during shifts. Maybe someone has a better way of hacking it out.
that was my big concern, never know when you get some bad gas, its a hot day, and you need to lay into it. If you force enough timing under bad conditions your pistons will eventually break.
Maybe i'm wrong but thats what i gather from searching and asking about the timing retard during shifts. Maybe someone has a better way of hacking it out.
