4L60E stall question
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4L60E stall question Just wanted to get everyones opinion on this. I have a 2000 SS camaro, lt. ory, magnaflow cat back, and bbk intake. Im thinking about putting a stall in my car, heard it is one of the best mods to do. My car has 108k miles on it, just serviced the trans and put in the sonax booster valve. Should i just throw a stall in it and not worry about the trans? Ive just heard the 4L60E is junk, and not worth rebulding from numerous people. They say its better to invest in a 4L80E swap. So should i just throw a stall in and cross my fingers, or just save my money and do a 4L80E swap?
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At your power level you'll be fine with the 60e just make sure you are keeping it cool. As far as the driveablity of a converter it'll take a little getting used to at first but isn't bad at all. If you do decide on a converter you should when removing the trans let all the fluid drain out and fill it with fresh stuff.
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This is more of a cruiser on the weekends and maybe the track once or twice a year. Im wanting to put in a cam as well down the road. Im debating whether to save up and do both at the same time so i only need to tune it once. Seems like alot of people like the yank 3600, but that seems a little big. wish someone local had one in their car so i can see how they drive
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what do you mean by after a day or two of driving? some sort of break in on the converter?? i just dont want to be passing someone and give it some gas and it flash right up to 3600 and blow the tires off or something. Guess i just need to find someone who has a stall and ride in the car. So does it go to 3600 as soon as you hit the gas, or just kinda slip it till you hammer it? Sounds like it would generate tons of heat, guess thats why they suggest a trans cooler. Thanks for your input
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I have had mine for just over 2 months and I love it.
The car has picked up .25 in the 60ft .62 in the 1/4 and 1.5mph.
With my mail order tune it has great drivability.
My car has 130,000 miles on it and I didn't rebuild the tranny,if you already have a problem it will amplify it.
I bought my TA with 120,000 miles and have over 300 dragstrip passes on her and about 60 with the converter installed.
BTW the converter is used.
The car has picked up .25 in the 60ft .62 in the 1/4 and 1.5mph.
With my mail order tune it has great drivability.
My car has 130,000 miles on it and I didn't rebuild the tranny,if you already have a problem it will amplify it.
I bought my TA with 120,000 miles and have over 300 dragstrip passes on her and about 60 with the converter installed.
BTW the converter is used.
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I have had mine for just over 2 months and I love it.
The car has picked up .25 in the 60ft .62 in the 1/4 and 1.5mph.
With my mail order tune it has great drivability.
My car has 130,000 miles on it and I didn't rebuild the tranny,if you already have a problem it will amplify it.
I bought my TA with 120,000 miles and have over 300 dragstrip passes on her and about 60 with the converter installed.
BTW the converter is used.
The car has picked up .25 in the 60ft .62 in the 1/4 and 1.5mph.
With my mail order tune it has great drivability.
My car has 130,000 miles on it and I didn't rebuild the tranny,if you already have a problem it will amplify it.
I bought my TA with 120,000 miles and have over 300 dragstrip passes on her and about 60 with the converter installed.
BTW the converter is used.
what do you mean by after a day or two of driving? some sort of break in on the converter?? i just dont want to be passing someone and give it some gas and it flash right up to 3600 and blow the tires off or something. Guess i just need to find someone who has a stall and ride in the car. So does it go to 3600 as soon as you hit the gas, or just kinda slip it till you hammer it? Sounds like it would generate tons of heat, guess thats why they suggest a trans cooler. Thanks for your input
the converter wont flash straight to 3600 unless i give it wot. if you give it gas gradually itll be like normal for the most part til you really get into it. it will need a little more gas to move from a stop but not much more than stock.
Yes itll generate a lot more heat because it is unlocked until you get to a certain speed, and the converter is basically shearing the fluid, thus raising tranny temps. once it locks up itll be just like stock and wont get as hot and mpgs will be better because its operating at a lower rpm than when its unlocked.
look on youtube for some videos of people with converters, theres a ton and thatll give you a better idea of what im saying.
Id call the converter company you plan on going with and telling them about your goals and mods, and theyll give you a good recommendation. Any of the sponsors who deal with converters on here do a good job and would be able to help.
personally Ive been looking into the torquer v2 for my car and it would work well with my converter.
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When I had my '00 WS6 with a Yank SS3600 stall, it did take a day or two to get use to it, but not nearly what you would think. I'm about to swap my T-56 for another 4L60E with a stall, just a lot more fun to drive!
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Sounds like I'm putting a stall in lol. Just have to decide on what size, I'm thinking maybe a 3000. What about rev max converters?
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I would suggest going no less than a 3200. You will regret it down the road if you do. Just my two cents. I would recommend picking up a 3600, it will offer a huge performance gain, but still retain some very nice drivability.
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I went from a 3000/2.2 to a 3600/2.5 and the only difference is that the 3600 flashes 500rpm higher off the line. But that didn't result in a better 60', or better e.t.'s, and the difference in general driving was slight.
Whatever stall speed you pick, you'll want a 9.5-10" converter with a good clutch. Have a Transgo shift kit installed when the tranny's out and get tuning done to get your shift characteristics where you want them.
Whatever stall speed you pick, you'll want a 9.5-10" converter with a good clutch. Have a Transgo shift kit installed when the tranny's out and get tuning done to get your shift characteristics where you want them.
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Thanks for the input guys. I just figured since i drive my car on the street a lot cruising and going to car shows, a lower stall converter would be better. Seems like everyone is happy with their 3600 stall. Guess that would compliment my cam upgrade too. What trans cooler would you all recomend?
Thanks for the input guys. I just figured since i drive my car on the street a lot cruising and going to car shows, a lower stall converter would be better. Seems like everyone is happy with their 3600 stall. Guess that would compliment my cam upgrade too. What trans cooler would you all recomend?
If you get even a mildly built 60e it can hold up to 400-600rwhp depending on how much money you put into it.
if you plan on going with serious power down the road 600/600 + you may as well go ahead and contact jakes performance. grab a good trans, and never worry about it again.
its not nearly as hard as its made out to be.
you just need a crossmember
a hammer to knock the **** out of the tunnel
a different yolk/linkage for the driveshaft to mate it to the 10 bolt (if thats what your running
and a segment swap/controller/or slow67 has a way to repin the harness to make it work.
you will most likely never be able to break that trans.
RPM/FLT/Jakes are the way to go. and not in that order.
if you plan on going with serious power down the road 600/600 + you may as well go ahead and contact jakes performance. grab a good trans, and never worry about it again.
its not nearly as hard as its made out to be.
you just need a crossmember
a hammer to knock the **** out of the tunnel
a different yolk/linkage for the driveshaft to mate it to the 10 bolt (if thats what your running
and a segment swap/controller/or slow67 has a way to repin the harness to make it work.
you will most likely never be able to break that trans.
RPM/FLT/Jakes are the way to go. and not in that order.
I would recomend the 3600. We can do this in either a triple disc or single disc platform. We also have a Bl Fiday sale that ends today with substantial savings. Give us a call at the shop.1-386-736-5816.
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