4l60e problems after 4.10s
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From: georgia
4l60e problems after 4.10s so i installed a set of aam 4.10s and after i took it easy on the car to let the gears brake in. but after a good week i put it in 1st and got in it and shifted to second . got to about 5500 rpms put it in 3 and all it did was bounce off the rev limiter. did another 45 roll floored it in d and it went thought 1st shifted into 2nd, went all the way through and bounced of the rev, i let out of the gas and got back in it. it shifted fine
it only does this at wot. and it shifts from 1st to 2nd like it has a shift kit.
any advice ?
it only does this at wot. and it shifts from 1st to 2nd like it has a shift kit.
any advice ?
Staging Lane
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From: Mount Gambier, Australia
I am a little slow, but why does the computer need to be reprogrammed after a ratio change? I understand to reset the speedo, but doesnt throttle position/load, and engine RPM dictate gear changes to a point?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am no computer expert.
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am no computer expert.
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I am a little slow, but why does the computer need to be reprogrammed after a ratio change? I understand to reset the speedo, but doesnt throttle position/load, and engine RPM dictate gear changes to a point?
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am no computer expert.
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am no computer expert.
Part throttle shifts are actually programmed from the Speedometer speed.
WOT shifts occur when BOTH the programmed speed AND RPM are reached.
Therefore the OP's problem is not a missing tune. (Going from 3.23? to 4.11, his speedometer is reading much higher than actual.) The reported harsh 1-2 shift indicates the PCM has detected a problem and is setting max line pressure. It should still be shifting at the same rpm and speedometer speed as before.
OP:
The first step here is to scan for codes.
Other than the harsh 1-2 shift, this unfortunately sounds like a failing 3-4 clutch. But start with a scan. If that is OK, tell us more. How old is the trans since its last rebuild? What RPM is the 2-3 shift occurring at? Is the car accelerating at all after the 2-3 shift or immediately revs to redline?
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From: georgia
You are correct. If you don't care about the speedometer, you can can change gear ratios and/or tire size without changing the tune. Basically RPM is the input shaft to the trans and speed is calculated from the output shaft of the trans and obviously the ratio between them is the same. Speedometer speed is a multiplier of the output shaft rpm.
Part throttle shifts are actually programmed from the Speedometer speed.
WOT shifts occur when BOTH the programmed speed AND RPM are reached.
Therefore the OP's problem is not a missing tune. (Going from 3.23? to 4.11, his speedometer is reading much higher than actual.) The reported harsh 1-2 shift indicates the PCM has detected a problem and is setting max line pressure. It should still be shifting at the same rpm and speedometer speed as before.
OP:
The first step here is to scan for codes.
Other than the harsh 1-2 shift, this unfortunately sounds like a failing 3-4 clutch. But start with a scan. If that is OK, tell us more. How old is the trans since its last rebuild? What RPM is the 2-3 shift occurring at? Is the car accelerating at all after the 2-3 shift or immediately revs to redline?
Part throttle shifts are actually programmed from the Speedometer speed.
WOT shifts occur when BOTH the programmed speed AND RPM are reached.
Therefore the OP's problem is not a missing tune. (Going from 3.23? to 4.11, his speedometer is reading much higher than actual.) The reported harsh 1-2 shift indicates the PCM has detected a problem and is setting max line pressure. It should still be shifting at the same rpm and speedometer speed as before.
OP:
The first step here is to scan for codes.
Other than the harsh 1-2 shift, this unfortunately sounds like a failing 3-4 clutch. But start with a scan. If that is OK, tell us more. How old is the trans since its last rebuild? What RPM is the 2-3 shift occurring at? Is the car accelerating at all after the 2-3 shift or immediately revs to redline?
Staging Lane
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From: Mount Gambier, Australia
Thanks for that. OP, was this problem there before the ratio change? I would be interested to see if going to a higher numbered ratio has any affect on shifts. My pickup is running a 4.56 diff, and although my trans possibly has a shift kit, it has a harsh 1-2 shift as well.
I am looking at going to a 4.11 or 3.7 to bring the revs down a bit.
I am looking at going to a 4.11 or 3.7 to bring the revs down a bit.
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From: georgia
Thanks for that. OP, was this problem there before the ratio change? I would be interested to see if going to a higher numbered ratio has any affect on shifts. My pickup is running a 4.56 diff, and although my trans possibly has a shift kit, it has a harsh 1-2 shift as well.
I am looking at going to a 4.11 or 3.7 to bring the revs down a bit.
I am looking at going to a 4.11 or 3.7 to bring the revs down a bit.
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