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Old 10-07-2013, 09:58 AM
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So I am wanting to swap over to a 4L80E in the near future, and I needed some opinions. As of right now, the car has a stock T56 and I am looking to swap over.

Here's my setup:
408ci LQ9
F1-A proCharger @ 16psi
Advanced Induction 232cc 317 Heads
LS6 Intake
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I am planning to make in the 800+ rwhp range.

So here's the question. Would a full manual valve body 4L80E be a bad idea for roll races? I will be driving the car on the street pretty often, it will only see the strip a few times and will only see a few digs on the street. 95% roll raced. I have never driven/ridden in a big stalled auto or a car with a fmvb and I don't really have the option to. I would just like to know if I'll be messing up going with a FMVB. Thanks.
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fmvb is not street or roll friendly.
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
fmvb is not street or roll friendly.
Why is that? Everyone seems to tell me differently. Not contradicting you, just wanting to know.
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Roll racing is lame.
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Originally Posted by Mystery Bird
Roll racing is lame.
Cool story.
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Bump. Anyone roll race with fmvb and a good size stall? Who likes driving fmvb on the street?
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Email Jake he's the 80e guy around here.
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Email Jake he's the 80e guy around here.
I did and he hasn't replied to my most recent pm. Haven't talked to him since Friday. I will talk to him when he replies or I'll just call, I was just seeing if I could get some opinions from others who have it in their car. Thank you though.
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Just curious how come you want to go with FMVB?
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Originally Posted by Mystery Bird
Just curious how come you want to go with FMVB?
Well I originally wanted to go with the electronic auto shift, but everyone I have spoken to (such as Midwest chassis and others) have steered me in the direction of the fmvb.
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I have roll raced mine but I'm not fmvb. I can downshift manually and go from there as long as it's not a 1st gear roll. Which, most of the time I do downshift manually doing a roll, and as soon as we go I shift it to 3rd and let the computer shift it for me.

But I'm not much on roll racing either. It's just not my thing.
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Wonder why they steered you away from letting the PCM control shifting? It's an easy swap and like MJF said just hold the gear you want to start rolling in then let the PCM do the rest.
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Originally Posted by MFJ
I have roll raced mine but I'm not fmvb. I can downshift manually and go from there as long as it's not a 1st gear roll. Which, most of the time I do downshift manually doing a roll, and as soon as we go I shift it to 3rd and let the computer shift it for me. But I'm not much on roll racing either. It's just not my thing.
I see. That sounds like a good set up, I'll have to look into it more. Roll racing isn't my favorite by any means, but around here nobody wants to do many digs so I've gotta take what I can get.
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Originally Posted by Mystery Bird
Wonder why they steered you away from letting the PCM control shifting? It's an easy swap and like MJF said just hold the gear you want to start rolling in then let the PCM do the rest.
I'm not sure either. I am new to the auto trans world, and I'm just open to all opinions. I haven't really ridden in a stalled auto car or a fmvb car and unfortunately I don't really have the option to. Everyone I have talked to has said a fmvb would be great from a roll because you can control the rpms like you could in a manual, but I don't want to get it in the car and think "man I wish I hadn't of done this."
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Well it will reduce your changce of belt issues and yes it can be controlled but to be honest if your not going to keep the auto shift why not go RMVB.
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Originally Posted by My6speedZ
Well it will reduce your changce of belt issues and yes it can be controlled but to be honest if your not going to keep the auto shift why not go RMVB.
Well I have nothing against RMVB and may go that route, I was just speaking of manual valve bodies in general.
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there is no 4l80e RMVB that im aware of
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Keep it Fully Automatic. Build a strong transmission, Billet stall converter is a must.

Heres Jakes link.... http://jakesperformance.com/4L80E.html

P.S. I will have a Billet 4l80e Lock up converter for sale soon. Its a lower stall speed but it might be perfect for Roll Racing. Let me know...
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I agree ^^^^^

keep it automatic cause you WILL get tired of constantly flipping the shifter back n forth. Get the PCM programmed for specific shift points under WOT and let the PCM do all the work for you after you take off...

Manual valve bodies primary build purpose is for the strip. Holding a gear longer than what the transmission is built to consider SAFE.. I am going to be putting a manual valve body in my turbo 400 while it is being rebuilt over the winter. But my truck will be opposite yours, 10% street, 90% strip and I plan to use nitrous on mine also.

Good luck with your decision and I hope it all works well for you.
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
I agree ^^^^^ keep it automatic cause you WILL get tired of constantly flipping the shifter back n forth. Get the PCM programmed for specific shift points under WOT and let the PCM do all the work for you after you take off... Manual valve bodies primary build purpose is for the strip. Holding a gear longer than what the transmission is built to consider SAFE.. I am going to be putting a manual valve body in my turbo 400 while it is being rebuilt over the winter. But my truck will be opposite yours, 10% street, 90% strip and I plan to use nitrous on mine also. Good luck with your decision and I hope it all works well for you.
Thanks to both of you guys. I will talk to Jake soon and see about my trans. After lots of digging and opinions I believe I will be happier with it full auto. Thanks!


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