4L80 Manual Valve Body guys chime in!!
11-08-2013, 09:57 AM
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4L80 Manual Valve Body guys chime in!! Alright so first off, I have searched on and off for weeks and I just can't seem to find the answers I'm looking for.
I am soon to swap out my T56 for a 4L80E. My car has a 408ci/F1-A setup and as much as I love shifting gears, I want to go auto. That being said, I was faced with the choice of manual valve body or computer controlled.
The car will not see the track very much, it is a street car, and I will be driving it very often for fun and cruising purposes, and some "spirited driving"
. I need to know how people feel about having a manual valve body 80E on the street! I don't have much experience with MVB setups but I don't believe I would get tired of changing gears because I love my T56 and I love shifting.
I know the computer controlled shifts would be "faster" and easier, but that's not what I would like to know. So if anyone who has a MVB 4L80E that drives it on the street often, let me know how you like it. I will most likely be going with a B&M Pro Ratchet shifter.
Thanks guys.
I am soon to swap out my T56 for a 4L80E. My car has a 408ci/F1-A setup and as much as I love shifting gears, I want to go auto. That being said, I was faced with the choice of manual valve body or computer controlled.
The car will not see the track very much, it is a street car, and I will be driving it very often for fun and cruising purposes, and some "spirited driving"
. I need to know how people feel about having a manual valve body 80E on the street! I don't have much experience with MVB setups but I don't believe I would get tired of changing gears because I love my T56 and I love shifting.I know the computer controlled shifts would be "faster" and easier, but that's not what I would like to know. So if anyone who has a MVB 4L80E that drives it on the street often, let me know how you like it. I will most likely be going with a B&M Pro Ratchet shifter.
Thanks guys.
11-09-2013, 06:50 AM
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I did one using the HD-3 kit, didn't like the shift delay, def with 4 gears it is a PITA shifting all the time-swapped out to an HD-2 kit and new VB and would never go back
there's a way to wire in yours to man, see if you like it, rewire it back and go auto if you dont
there's a way to wire in yours to man, see if you like it, rewire it back and go auto if you dont
11-11-2013, 07:44 AM
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I did one using the HD-3 kit, didn't like the shift delay, def with 4 gears it is a PITA shifting all the time-swapped out to an HD-2 kit and new VB and would never go back there's a way to wire in yours to man, see if you like it, rewire it back and go auto if you dont
11-11-2013, 04:35 PM
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I usually try to not give an opinion on this because that is all that it is, an opinion based on each's preferences.
A 4L80E was originally designed as an electronically controlled transmission. I have not seen any true hydraulic VB design that didn't take something away from the design the Hydramatic engineers worked so hard to develop, with a huge budget.
My opinion is that it is best used as an electronic transmission if it's within the budget and technical skill of the installer.
The reality is some don't have the budget/skill to deal with the wiring and tuning.
There are some cases where the manual VB works well even when the budget tune is there. I have a customer who is a respected tuner that prefers full manual operation in his turbo car, that way he can short shift it on a bad run or on the street when it gets loose, to help hook it back up and let the motor/turbo pull the car. An auto shift setup would just shift at the predetermined rpm/mph parameter, possibly causing other issues.
A 4L80E was originally designed as an electronically controlled transmission. I have not seen any true hydraulic VB design that didn't take something away from the design the Hydramatic engineers worked so hard to develop, with a huge budget.
My opinion is that it is best used as an electronic transmission if it's within the budget and technical skill of the installer.
The reality is some don't have the budget/skill to deal with the wiring and tuning.
There are some cases where the manual VB works well even when the budget tune is there. I have a customer who is a respected tuner that prefers full manual operation in his turbo car, that way he can short shift it on a bad run or on the street when it gets loose, to help hook it back up and let the motor/turbo pull the car. An auto shift setup would just shift at the predetermined rpm/mph parameter, possibly causing other issues.
11-11-2013, 08:45 PM
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I usually try to not give an opinion on this because that is all that it is, an opinion based on each's preferences.
A 4L80E was originally designed as an electronically controlled transmission. I have not seen any true hydraulic VB design that didn't take something away from the design the Hydramatic engineers worked so hard to develop, with a huge budget.
My opinion is that it is best used as an electronic transmission if it's within the budget and technical skill of the installer.
The reality is some don't have the budget/skill to deal with the wiring and tuning.
There are some cases where the manual VB works well even when the budget tune is there. I have a customer who is a respected tuner that prefers full manual operation in his turbo car, that way he can short shift it on a bad run or on the street when it gets loose, to help hook it back up and let the motor/turbo pull the car. An auto shift setup would just shift at the predetermined rpm/mph parameter, possibly causing other issues.
A 4L80E was originally designed as an electronically controlled transmission. I have not seen any true hydraulic VB design that didn't take something away from the design the Hydramatic engineers worked so hard to develop, with a huge budget.
My opinion is that it is best used as an electronic transmission if it's within the budget and technical skill of the installer.
The reality is some don't have the budget/skill to deal with the wiring and tuning.
There are some cases where the manual VB works well even when the budget tune is there. I have a customer who is a respected tuner that prefers full manual operation in his turbo car, that way he can short shift it on a bad run or on the street when it gets loose, to help hook it back up and let the motor/turbo pull the car. An auto shift setup would just shift at the predetermined rpm/mph parameter, possibly causing other issues.
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11-12-2013, 07:27 AM
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I have a mvb from this guy and I came from a t56 and I must say that I love this setup. Make sure to run the electronic style mvb that is cake to wire and will shift whenever you demand, and you won't have the hydraulic issues that most complain about. Best part was I had to do no tuning for the trans.
11-12-2013, 07:28 AM
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I usually try to not give an opinion on this because that is all that it is, an opinion based on each's preferences. A 4L80E was originally designed as an electronically controlled transmission. I have not seen any true hydraulic VB design that didn't take something away from the design the Hydramatic engineers worked so hard to develop, with a huge budget. My opinion is that it is best used as an electronic transmission if it's within the budget and technical skill of the installer. The reality is some don't have the budget/skill to deal with the wiring and tuning. There are some cases where the manual VB works well even when the budget tune is there. I have a customer who is a respected tuner that prefers full manual operation in his turbo car, that way he can short shift it on a bad run or on the street when it gets loose, to help hook it back up and let the motor/turbo pull the car. An auto shift setup would just shift at the predetermined rpm/mph parameter, possibly causing other issues.
11-12-2013, 08:06 AM
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I have a mvb from this guy and I came from a t56 and I must say that I love this setup. Make sure to run the electronic style mvb that is cake to wire and will shift whenever you demand, and you won't have the hydraulic issues that most complain about. Best part was I had to do no tuning for the trans.
11-12-2013, 05:15 PM
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some of the controllers have a manual mode, so you can shift it as a manual, or switch back and let it shift-I used to leave mine in auto, when I ran it I just shifted it thru the gears-its the best of both worlds
sometimes its nice to just let the trans do all the work
to clear it up, when I switched to the HD-2 kit I was using auto
the old VB wasn't usable after the HD-3 conversion as an auto
sometimes its nice to just let the trans do all the work
to clear it up, when I switched to the HD-2 kit I was using auto
the old VB wasn't usable after the HD-3 conversion as an auto
