4l80e extension housing bushing
Looks like you may have found your culprit. That 2WD plug is pretty easy to get out and replace compared to the 4x4 version.
What is a small amount of fluid?
How much flows through that hole?
At what temp?
What's the orifice size of the hole?
When I built an 04 unit several years ago, they didn't have a listing for
an 04 tail housing bushing-I thought I used an earlier housing, just
cant remember
I then pressed a new seamless bushing (babbit late type bushing Transtar# 34006E) into a late tail housing and checked clearance (using a new Sonnax slip yoke) and it was greatly reduced. That got me thinking and searching online for 4l80e sloppy slip yokes and drive shaft vibrations and brought me here. Seems there quite a few threads on this subject (some with videos) with no real solution in most of the threads. I don't think early 4L80e's ever used a slip yoke. In my memory, every one I have seen had a bolt on yoke ( I could be wrong here- Jake? ) Since the yoke is bolted to the output shaft, there is no slop. However later 4L80e's did use a slip yoke in some 2wl applications. To my knowledge, GM never produced a replacement bushing for the later 4L80e tail housings. Omega tool produced a bronze one ($25.00). Your olny choices were to buy a new housing or swap it out with a early one if you had a worn bushing. I pleaded with Sonnax a couple years ago to produce a replacement bushing for the late tail housings, we discussed making one with PTFE coating, but they never did.
About 2 years ago (or less), Dura-Bond produced a seamless replacement bushing (Transtar# 34066e) as a replacement for the 2004 & up tail housings.
Which got me thinking, how many 4L80e's swaps are out there running a slip yoke with a early tail housing? Or is this just poor quality (early) bushings that my supplier is selling me (getting harder & harder to buy quality bushings for some applications) I cannot say I have any "New" 4l80e early or late tail housings on the shelf to compare the slop with a new Sonnax slip yoke.
One thing I know for certain. Late tail housing and late bushing I installed have a much tighter fit than a early tail housing.
Ill post up results and some videos of the slop differences between the two when I get feed back from my customer.
Last edited by Detroit Gearbox; Sep 26, 2015 at 04:44 PM.
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I then pressed a new seamless bushing (babbit late type bushing Transtar# 34006E) into a late tail housing and checked clearance (using a new Sonnax slip yoke) and it was greatly reduced. That got me thinking and searching online for 4l80e sloppy slip yokes and drive shaft vibrations and brought me here. Seems there quite a few threads on this subject (some with videos) with no real solution in most of the threads. I don't think early 4L80e's ever used a slip yoke. In my memory, every one I have seen had a bolt on yoke ( I could be wrong here- Jake? ) Since the yoke is bolted to the output shaft, there is no slop. However later 4L80e's did use a slip yoke in some 2wl applications. To my knowledge, GM never produced a replacement bushing for the later 4L80e tail housings. Omega tool produced a bronze one ($25.00). Your olny choices were to buy a new housing or swap it out with a early one if you had a worn bushing. I pleaded with Sonnax a couple years ago to produce a replacement bushing for the late tail housings, we discussed making one with PTFE coating, but they never did.
About 2 years ago (or less), Dura-Bond produced a seamless replacement bushing (Transtar# 34066e) as a replacement for the 2004 & up tail housings.
Which got me thinking, how many 4L80e's swaps are out there running a slip yoke with a early tail housing? Or is this just poor quality (early) bushings that my supplier is selling me (getting harder & harder to buy quality bushings for some applications) I cannot say I have any "New" 4l80e early or late tail housings on the shelf to compare the slop with a new Sonnax slip yoke.
One thing I know for certain. Late tail housing and late bushing I installed have a much tighter fit than a early tail housing.
Ill post up results and some videos of the slop differences between the two when I get feed back from my customer.
I then pressed a new seamless bushing (babbit late type bushing Transtar# 34006E) into a late tail housing and checked clearance (using a new Sonnax slip yoke) and it was greatly reduced. That got me thinking and searching online for 4l80e sloppy slip yokes and drive shaft vibrations and brought me here. Seems there quite a few threads on this subject (some with videos) with no real solution in most of the threads. I don't think early 4L80e's ever used a slip yoke. In my memory, every one I have seen had a bolt on yoke ( I could be wrong here- Jake? ) Since the yoke is bolted to the output shaft, there is no slop. However later 4L80e's did use a slip yoke in some 2wl applications. To my knowledge, GM never produced a replacement bushing for the later 4L80e tail housings. Omega tool produced a bronze one ($25.00). Your olny choices were to buy a new housing or swap it out with a early one if you had a worn bushing. I pleaded with Sonnax a couple years ago to produce a replacement bushing for the late tail housings, we discussed making one with PTFE coating, but they never did.
About 2 years ago (or less), Dura-Bond produced a seamless replacement bushing (Transtar# 34066e) as a replacement for the 2004 & up tail housings.
Which got me thinking, how many 4L80e's swaps are out there running a slip yoke with a early tail housing? Or is this just poor quality (early) bushings that my supplier is selling me (getting harder & harder to buy quality bushings for some applications) I cannot say I have any "New" 4l80e early or late tail housings on the shelf to compare the slop with a new Sonnax slip yoke.
One thing I know for certain. Late tail housing and late bushing I installed have a much tighter fit than a early tail housing.
Ill post up results and some videos of the slop differences between the two when I get feed back from my customer.
my trans originally had a bolt on yoke, and my trans builder machined off the "stop" on my output shaft so that my slip yoke could have another half inch or so of travel. but i still get a vibration and my slip yoke still fits inside my trans with a substantial amount of slop.
in conclusion, if you want to use a slip yoke in a 4l80, make sure you use the output shaft that is fully splined along with a long barrel slip yoke. don't try and use a short barrel slip yoke with a bolt on style output shaft.
this is just my opinion, I don't want to step on Jake's toes, he is the best man to talk to on this subject
What shaft you use has absolutely zero bearing on the bushing to yoke clearance.
The housings and bushings don't differ for a given model. Early model units came with fully splined shafts on some applications, this didn't change the clearance.
The yokes all have the same O.D. Standard SAE dimensions.
The change in 2004 was likely either a metric changeover, a supplier issue, etc.
I would NOT put a slip in the middle of a high speed driveshaft.







