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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:17 AM
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I posted this in drag race tech as well. Whats the consensus on this? Car in sig with a full manual TH350, no transbrake or 2-step. I cannot build any boost in first gear on the footbrake as it will push through. However, dicking around I was able to get boost on the footbrake in 2nd. How harsh would it be on the trans to try a 2nd gear launch? Thanks guys!
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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Full manual? Build boost in 2nd with footbrake, downshift into 1st. It will overpower the brakes and launch hard.
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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I thought about that as well, but again didn't know how hard it would be on the trans. Yes, it's a full manual valve body. Still new to stalled autos as the car was born a 6sp. So build boost in 2nd & throw to first when light turns, correct?
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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I would think that you need a 2 step to do it to build boost.
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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I thought about that as well, but again didn't know how hard it would be on the trans. Yes, it's a full manual valve body. Still new to stalled autos as the car was born a 6sp. So build boost in 2nd & throw to first when light turns, correct?
I use relays to lock my 4L80e into overdrive on the line, can stall it up to 4500 and 18 PSI if I want to. Then I let go of the button to turn off the relay, it downshifts into 1st and blows through the brakes. I've done it dozens of times with no issues.

I would say its worth a shot. Start small. Without a 2-step you'll be modulating RPM and boost with your foot.
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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I use relays to lock my 4L80e into overdrive on the line, can stall it up to 4500 and 18 PSI if I want to. Then I let go of the button to turn off the relay, it downshifts into 1st and blows through the brakes. I've done it dozens of times with no issues.

I would say its worth a shot. Start small. Without a 2-step you'll be modulating RPM and boost with your foot.
Yeah, I realize things would be a lot easier with a brake & two step. Will have both when I get the new trans later on. I will give this a try for now, thanks man!!!
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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A N2MB 2-step box is $200 or so. Are you using the stock ECU?
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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Yes, stock 98' ecm
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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Since its manual shift, it should work fine. As soon as you click into first it'll blow through the brakes. A line lock kit is $120 or so from Summit. You could shift into 2nd gear and mount a momentary button or toggle switch that would lock the brakes for you so you wouldn't have to use your foot. Let off button when it hits first gear and launch.
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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I have a line lock on the car, but the switch is mounted where I have to use my shifting hand, lol. Joe, what are your thoughts on leaving in 2nd gear? The car has a 3.90 gear & im afraid 1st may have traction issues anyway, although I am running a 275/60r15 drag radial. Ive read where a lot of guys leave in 2nd & sometimes net a better et due to the smoother launch. I plan on getting a Rossler glide with a brake the first of the year, thanks!
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 12:03 PM
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I tried launching my Nova in 2nd gear. 60 foot was a lousy 1.8 leaving at 4 PSI. Unless you launch at a high RPM, its going to bog down out of boost. Best case scenario is your converter stalls really high for you, which has its own downsides.

Smoother launch? Sure, but I easily added half a second to my ET.
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