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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 04:14 PM
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I am bolting a th400 to a LS and before the converter pads touch the flexplate the flexplate bolts hit the converter body.
anyone come across this before ? can i push converter into trans, come out 1/8" towards motor, throw washers in between and call it a day ?

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-700361

^^ using this converter
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As far as just putting in about a ½ in. washer as a spacer I don't know about but something like this is the right way to do it.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/sum...FZiIswod5YsKEA
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I am using that, that's not my issue my issue is that the converter hits the flexplate bolts before it makes contact with the flexplate
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I am using that, that's not my issue my issue is that the converter hits the flexplate bolts before it makes contact with the flexplate
Sorry, got ya.

From the converter pads to flex plate should be about .125" - .250" .
If more than that you will have to shim with washers.
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But shouldn't the converter be able to slide all the way forward to touch the pads without hitting the flexplate bolts I have installed transmissions and converters before and never can across flexplate bolts hitting the converter before the converter lads can touch the flexplate
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Originally Posted by z28zane
I am bolting a th400 to a LS and before the converter pads touch the flexplate the flexplate bolts hit the converter body.
anyone come across this before ? can i push converter into trans, come out 1/8" towards motor, throw washers in between and call it a day ?

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-700361

^^ using this converter
You have done something wrong if your flexplate bolts are hitting the converter body.

I used the Hughes Th400/ls1 spacer ring for the back of the crankshaft. And a B&M sfi flexplate.

Make sure when you are doing the install, that your converter isn't bottomed out in your trans pump. You need to pull the converter forwards a certain amount, but not too much. Follow their instruction sheet.

From memory, mine worked out with using about 1/8" thick washers between the converter and flexplate. It is working flawless

Edit: Yes you need to push the converter in all the way so it bottoms out in the trans, then pull it forwards the recommended amount, and use the correct washers to make up the gap between the converter pads and flexplate.

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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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yes as per my measurement a 1/8" washer will give me the 3/16" converter to transmission spacing and clear the bolts HOWEVER ... i am curious as to WHY the bolts are hitting if the converter is pulled all the way forward.
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Originally Posted by z28zane
yes as per my measurement a 1/8" washer will give me the 3/16" converter to transmission spacing and clear the bolts HOWEVER ... i am curious as to WHY the bolts are hitting if the converter is pulled all the way forward.
I don't remember if mine did that. This Hughes spacer is what im using.. https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/hup-hp3795

Edit: You have the factory GM spacer. Well you still shouldn't have an issue, I used that one my previous LS1/th400 car.

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Originally Posted by z28zane
yes as per my measurement a 1/8" washer will give me the 3/16" converter to transmission spacing and clear the bolts HOWEVER ... i am curious as to WHY the bolts are hitting if the converter is pulled all the way forward.
If you use the Hughes spacer instead, your flexplate bolts won't be hanging out so far. Possibly that Summit converter has such a thick anti ballooning plate, that it is too close to the flexplate bolts, because of the GM spacer having the bolts sticking out further than normal.

With the Hughes style TH400/LS1 spacer, you run the standard length flexplate bolts and bolt your flexplate straight up to the back of the crankshaft and don't have the bolts sticking out like they do with the factory GM spacer.

If that makes sense.
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 07:32 PM
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If you use the Hughes spacer instead, your flexplate bolts won't be hanging out so far. Possibly that Summit converter has such a thick anti ballooning plate, that it is too close to the flexplate bolts, because of the GM spacer having the bolts sticking out further than normal.

With the Hughes style TH400/LS1 spacer, you run the standard length flexplate bolts and bolt your flexplate straight up to the back of the crankshaft and don't have the bolts sticking out like they do with the factory GM spacer.

If that makes sense.

i believe you hit the nail on the head.... i think its just the design of the converter that is causing this as i am using the gm spacer.

so my options are ....
hughes spacer or ... ???
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 07:34 PM
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i would need a dished flex plate ?
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Old Jan 29, 2017 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by z28zane
i would need a dished flex plate ?
You use the standard LS1 style flexplate with the Hughes spacer. The spacer just get hit into the back of the crankshaft until it bottoms out.
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Old Jan 31, 2017 | 04:52 AM
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https://m.summitracing.com/parts/ATP-Z270

this is what I currently have.

Can an I just ditch the supplied spacer for the Hughes and get shorter bolts??
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Originally Posted by z28zane
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/ATP-Z270

this is what I currently have.

Can an I just ditch the supplied spacer for the Hughes and get shorter bolts??
I am not sure on that flexplate. All I know is you just have to have any ls1/2/3 car flexplate, which is dished. The truck ones are flat, you don't use a truck one.

That thing above looks weak for any decent HP. I got this cheap B&M and not be afraid it shatters into pieces... https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/bmm-20340

The only thing, that B&M one needs one hole elongating for some TH400 converters. So bolt it to your converter first before putting it in the car, if one hole is a bit off, fix it with a die grinder.
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