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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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My trans is all back together and working fine so far. But Ive only Put a few miles on it. I was just second guessing something the whole time. I fought and fought dropping the whole input assembly into the transmission and was never sure if every clutch went over the splines. I tried a few times and always had the same result... about 1/4 below the shelf where the pump bolts thread into. Every picture I seen looked deeper to me but it was hard to tell. After bolting the pump in, I had .015 end play and the pump seemed to install nicely. Is it possible that one clutch plate did not go over the splines or would that make the drum too high for the pump to bolt in correctly and everything turn freely? Thanks
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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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I’m no expert but I would say if it did not seat all the way down then there would be some serious binding in the input drum and pump..
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Old Jul 15, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by markhodges78
Im no expert but I would say if it did not seat all the way down then there would be some serious binding in the input drum and pump..
Thats what I figured too. I didnt think there would be any endplay if that was the case, and I didnt think the input shaft would turn. I just could not tell if it was down over that last clutch. Hoping anything below flush with the pump shelf is ok.

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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 07:35 AM
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If you don't catch all the clutches you won't be able to bolt the pump down

well...you CAN...but you'll know it isn't right. Because to bolt it down, you'll be bending the inner teeth of the clutches.

So...the fact that the pump bolted down and you had endplay means you're ok
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MaroonMonsterLS1
If you don't catch all the clutches you won't be able to bolt the pump down

well...you CAN...but you'll know it isn't right. Because to bolt it down, you'll be bending the inner teeth of the clutches.

So...the fact that the pump bolted down and you had endplay means you're ok

Yup!

To the OP... MaroonMonsterLS1 is on the money as usual! :-) So give him and the other guys some thanks please. :-) We have feelings too. LOL!

These Units almost always have stupid amounts of end-play unless you purchase aftermarket shims from Sonnax of come up with your own shim solution.
Should you assemble the unit with the pump torqued down and find a small amount of end-play or no end-play... than some of the reverse input clutches are not on the aluminum input drum splines completely as you feared...
You will know the unit is completely assembled correctly when you measure end-play at the turbine-shaft and have some stupidly huge 35+ thousandths or more of end-play LMAO!
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vorteciroc
Yup!

To the OP... MaroonMonsterLS1 is on the money as usual! :-) So give him and the other guys some thanks please. :-) We have feelings too. LOL!

These Units almost always have stupid amounts of end-play unless you purchase aftermarket shims from Sonnax of come up with your own shim solution.
Should you assemble the unit with the pump torqued down and find a small amount of end-play or no end-play... than some of the reverse input clutches are not on the aluminum input drum splines completely as you feared...
You will know the unit is completely assembled correctly when you measure end-play at the turbine-shaft and have some stupidly huge 35+ thousandths or more of end-play LMAO!
Well thanks, it did have .015 endplay but its too late now. Its back in the car and has been driven. Would it destroy itself in a short amount of time if one of the clutches is not over the splines?
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by field57
Well thanks, it did have .015 endplay but its too late now. Its back in the car and has been driven. Would it destroy itself in a short amount of time if one of the clutches is not over the splines?
Like mentioned in post #4, you would not be able to bolt the pump in.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
Like mentioned in post #4, you would not be able to bolt the pump in.
Alright thanks everybody. My first trans build had me
worried and second guessing everything. Im
glad its working good and the next one should be less nerve wracking.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by field57
Alright thanks everybody. My first trans build had me
worried and second guessing everything. Im
glad its working good and the next one should be less nerve wracking.
I second guessed the reverse input drum also my first build but you're good.
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