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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:35 PM
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Hoping someone can help ID this. Any details appreciated. I bought the trans as a core basically. Had been gone through, but wasn't moving any fluid. Which lines up with the e clip being in the pan along with the boost valve assembly, and pressure regulator valve and spring hanging loose in the bore roughly... Along with very clean internals.



I believe I was told this was a Jake's D1 brake. It's definitely not a stock VB. Seals were left out of reverse servo/accumulator if that offers any additional clues. No markings I can see except for what's in the one picture, I don't think it's telling, but maybe for someone it is. Gasket may be a clue as I've heard some install metal to metal. I don't need a brake, and will likely sell or trade it, but wanna be able to accurately say what it is before I do. Thanks
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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Well you have a Factory/ Stock Casting, Pre-1997 Valve-Body.
Many of the Trans-Brakes are modified Stock Castings.

"Lester" and "8683479" are Original/ Stock Casting Identifications (Casting Place and Number).
Not really anything that identifies what you have as other than Stock.

The Third and Fourth Accumulator Housing has been removed and blocked-off (very commonly done)...
and the Separator-Plate and Gaskets are Aftermarket.
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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Thanks for taking time to reply. I didn't figure those markings meant anything and you confirmed that. When you say commonly done, do you mean in the context of trans brake valve bodies, or just generally?
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 08:15 PM
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Most of the Products offered for the 4L80E Valve-Body ("Shift-Kits", Shift Recalibrations, Trans-Brake Kits, Etc) come with a Block-Off Plate for the 3rd and 4th Accumulator Housing.
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 09:29 PM
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Thanks for the clarification
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 07:13 AM
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Yes, it's a D1
I can tell by the separator plate
Ground the "B" solenoid in "D1" on the shifter and it will engage the transbrake.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 08:23 AM
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Thanks for the help. I don't need, or won't use a trans brake. Will it function normally, electronically controlled if I were to use it and just not engage the brake? Otherwise I'll sell or trade it for a stocker.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 08:54 AM
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If you have the shifter in manual low, and the ECM attempts the factory programmed "safety shift"
it will lock the trans up

the safety shift is part of the factory tune that will shift 1-2 even if you are in D1
the idea is to keep you from over revving your pickup when towing

if that is tuned away, it should function prettymuch like normal for a 4l80e, you'll just have firmer shifts thanks to the blocked accumulators.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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I'll be using an aftermarket controller (undecided on which one yet), I assume most of them can handle tuning out this safety feature? Thanks again for the helpful info. Sounds like I can finish the inspection, and plan on putting it back together, after determing what caused the e clip failure situation. I'd guess someone tried to do the job with something other than snap ring pliers as the clip looks deformed... My 65 Pontiac will then get OD, like I should have done long ago...
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Yes most controllers do not perform the safety shift

FYI the 2-1 downshift with a computer is fine. Totally normal
A 2-1 downshift manually with the shifter can occasionally be a bit harsh. Often not too bad but some setups can bang a bit.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 11:17 AM
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Thanks for the heads up on that. If I remember correctly, I was told by the previous owner that part of the D1 install was to install a Sonnax boost valve, perhaps the reason they were messing around with the assembly that lost the snap ring retainer. If I were to post a pic of this assembly, would you be able to tell if it's the Sonnax part? I'd like to know if the PR spring and the snap ring are all thats wrong in that little assembly.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 11:50 AM
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:28 PM
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I believe jake's uses the Sonnax LB1 valve. it should have 2 orings on the OD.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tayto
I believe jake's uses the Sonnax LB1 valve. it should have 2 orings on the OD.
We no longer use the Sonnax LB1 and haven't for over a year.

That's one of my D1's.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 02:18 PM
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I picked this up about a year and a half ago. Any chance it was correct at that time? Any chance of getting the written instruction material for this from you Jake? Perhaps with the purchase of whatever the newer correct parts are?
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 02:30 PM
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instructions are on his site.

jake, are you making the valve in house now? I thought you were not using the supplied LB1 spring, but still using the valve. guess not.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tayto
instructions are on his site.

jake, are you making the valve in house now? I thought you were not using the supplied LB1 spring, but still using the valve. guess not.
Maybe I'm just missing it, but I only see D3 instructions there.
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http://www.jakesperformance.com/wp-c...s-04012016.pdf
With that separator plate you should be able to skip grinding the groove in the servo pin
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 03:31 PM
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That link is a blank page. But thanks for trying
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 06:01 PM
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www.jakesperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/D1-Transbrake-Instructions-04012016.pdf
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