Servos and other mysteries
We all know, that the stock 2nd gear servo is the least desirable 2nd gear servo to have especially if it came out of a 4.3L transmission.
We all know, that the vette 2nd gear servo is desirable in pretty much any application as an upgrade.
We all know that the billet servo, either the set or separate, is for extreme purposes.
We all know that the 2-4 servo set is also an accumulator of sorts for the 2-3 shift... or something like that
What I can reconcile in my head is, what is the chief main job of the 2nd gear and 4th gear servo's. Is it shift feel? Is it the shift in general. Is it band apply pressure that directly affects the holding power of the band?
I have an idea that it is mainly there as the latter. The servo has the most affect on clamping force and therefor holding power of the 2-4 band. All else being equal, a servo with more apply area equals more holding capacity. Is that about right? I know there can be a combination of mods that will also affect the end result. I just want to fully understand the servo and why we upgrade them theory.
Agreed and I think I understand to what degree. I am sure there is an actual calculator that would supply a numerical value.
Larger apply area means more apply force
Cool ok I was on track with this.
This affects the shift feel, timing, and holding capacity of the band.
Side note, am I using affect/effect correctly? I need the grammar police
Also consider that the servo is the 3rd accumulator also. Me I use a TH400/4L80E int servo return spring in place of the stock it would play in a small degree with both too,
Also on the flip side a smaller servo with a large hole might give you a quicker firmer light throttle shift than the corvette simply because of less area to fill.
That is where accumulators and springs come in.
Me I do all my units the same .083 second feed second to servo, .083 accum feed for 3rd and corvette servo but also with the sonnax when I do use one (Primary reason for using the th400 return spring is the sonnax with DRINGS and the VET servo I noted they would be stuck in partially applied position on tear down off the dyno not fully releasing on the 2-1 because of the drag of the DRING.
I am a little different on the vet servo I would rather use the teflon rings and as far as leaks am more concerned at this point with leaks of 3rd clutch, 4th feed oil arround the band pin in case which I have noted playing arround can be considerable, This is why I pretty much strictly use the sonnax pin with the little teflons. though I can only hope they seal better once hot as while better than, They still leak a good bit in that area. Been looking for either a rubber or solid ring alternative or even considering getting the sonax tool so I can bore the hole and use the oversized pin they offer.
I have wondered if small rubber orings could be used in place of the little teflons but worry they will roll and destroy themselves though pin travel might be limited enough with a close set up to avoid that.
Then we have pancake servos , They are equal area both sides. They do offer max hold but getting a reasonable shift is hard though the ones with the cushion spring do a little better in any case they tend to be clunky feeling are very very agressive on the band and with the exception of what little accumlation they offfer due to the retrun spring no 3rd accum at all another clunky feel at light throttles. I only use those in the most extreme applications. They are not my preferred at all other wise. I have heard some say with the cushion they have accumulation not true at all they have the same but not quiet as hard on the band. Like I said not a fan except in extreme applications where comfort is not a consideration at all.
Ok My 2 cents lol
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Last edited by FranksCustomTrans; Mar 8, 2024 at 10:18 AM. Reason: spelling, dyslexia issues







