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I think a lot also depends on your particular typical driving scenario. 90% of my driving is in town. I drove a guy's 3500 stalled car and liked it, but I felt like there was too much slippage up and down the rpm band in on/off throttle applications. I thought it might get annoying on a daily basis in town. That, plus the harder hit to the tires with a 3500, is why I went a little smaller/tighter.
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
You'll see that there are more guys that support the "don't go too small" idea than there are guys that would recommend a small converter. No offense to the people that are running small stalls and or recommending them, but take it from the guys that know, and go with at least a 3500. If you go smaller, say a SF3000, and you ever drive a car with the SSF3500, you'll regret the decision to go small. Trust me!!!!! Just trying to help, that's my.02 
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
No offense to the people that are running small stalls and or recommending them, but take it from the guys that know, and go with at least a 3500. If you go smaller, say a SF3000, and you ever drive a car with the SSF3500, you'll regret the decision to go small. Trust me!!!!! Just trying to help, that's my.02
the problem with a say 3500 converter or larger,in my opinion is that its not gonna go any faster on the street than a 3000 stall. my point beeing that any time i mash the throttle from a stop sign on asphault you go no where but spin the tires.now at the drag strip a friend of mine with the same basic mods as me and a yank 4400 only 60 fts in the low 150s as compared to my low 160s. so the benifit beeing a tenth or so at the track as apposed to never being able too floor it on the street is too big a trade off, unless its an all out race car.my car set up has plenty of low end even befor the cam.
I have the 323's anda Yank SY3500.
You simply cannot beat this converter IMO.
Well, maybe by price.
i have put approx. 25K on this converter & have had O problems.
My car is a daily driver with 172K on it.
i also consistantly get 20-21 mpg on the hwy.
i have a mild cam TR220 .553 @112+4.
Perfect combo IMO.
I did alot of research prior to my purchase.
Good luck.
You simply cannot beat this converter IMO.
Well, maybe by price.
i have put approx. 25K on this converter & have had O problems.
My car is a daily driver with 172K on it.
i also consistantly get 20-21 mpg on the hwy.
i have a mild cam TR220 .553 @112+4.
Perfect combo IMO.
I did alot of research prior to my purchase.
Good luck.
Originally Posted by 4mula
so youre saying guys like colonel are full of **** and dont know.
How many times has someone bought a converter and wished they'd went bigger? How many people have bought a converter and wished they'd went smaller? More people wished they'd went bigger from what I've seen. I originally didn't want to get anything but under 3000, because I didn't understand or know how much difference the converter actually makes. After I had driven my 3500 I was immediately glad I listened to the guys that recommended to go bigger, and a little while after that, I was having thoughts of even more. I've said numerous times if I could snap my fingers and a 4000, or 4400 would be in there, I would. And there will be a bigger one in there before it's all said and done. Is my car a daily driver, no, but it gets 23 mpg and that in my book is pretty good. I know I was very reserved about a converter when I took the leap, but it was worth it for sure, I'm just trying to help the guy out.
Originally Posted by 4mula
there isnt that much difference in performance between the two.
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
No where did I ever say anyone was full of ****. Colonel hasn't posted anything in this thread, so how could I be saying anything about him How many times has someone bought a converter and wished they'd went bigger? How many people have bought a converter and wished they'd went smaller? More people wished they'd went bigger from what I've seen. I originally didn't want to get anything but under 3000, because I didn't understand or know how much difference the converter actually makes. After I had driven my 3500 I was immediately glad I listened to the guys that recommended to go bigger, and a little while after that, I was having thoughts of even more. I've said numerous times if I could snap my fingers and a 4000, or 4400 would be in there, I would. And there will be a bigger one in there before it's all said and done. Is my car a daily driver, no, but it gets 23 mpg and that in my book is pretty good. I know I was very reserved about a converter when I took the leap, but it was worth it for sure, I'm just trying to help the guy out.
How many times has someone bought a converter and wished they'd went bigger? How many people have bought a converter and wished they'd went smaller? More people wished they'd went bigger from what I've seen. I originally didn't want to get anything but under 3000, because I didn't understand or know how much difference the converter actually makes. After I had driven my 3500 I was immediately glad I listened to the guys that recommended to go bigger, and a little while after that, I was having thoughts of even more. I've said numerous times if I could snap my fingers and a 4000, or 4400 would be in there, I would. And there will be a bigger one in there before it's all said and done. Is my car a daily driver, no, but it gets 23 mpg and that in my book is pretty good. I know I was very reserved about a converter when I took the leap, but it was worth it for sure, I'm just trying to help the guy out.LS1 Tech Stories
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
So what is the shift extension on the 3000, I'm curious, and what can you brake stall it to?
it breaks at about 3200.
i cut low 1.80 60 foot times. if i could hook id cut 1.70s
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Who says that you can't go faster on the street with a 4000 stall compared to a 3000 stall? When i had 3.23s and a YTP 4000, I could launch hard and from a roll the car was awesome. When i went to 3.73s, it became much harder to launch. Pick what you are comfortable with.
Pewter's combo is a good example of a high drivability, quick street set-up.
Pewter's combo is a good example of a high drivability, quick street set-up.
Originally Posted by 4mula
im not sure on exact extrension rpm because i had speed inc do the install and tune.
it breaks at about 3200.
i cut low 1.80 60 foot times. if i could hook id cut 1.70s
it breaks at about 3200.
i cut low 1.80 60 foot times. if i could hook id cut 1.70s
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
Ok, I'm not stupid, there's NO WAY you can break stall that 3000 converter to 3200, my 3500 is no where near that. I'd say for my 3500, 2500 rpms would be pushin it. Colonel said in the post about the SF3000 that the shift extensions around 4500, mine never falls below 5000. I don't want a war here, but no where did Colonel say to buy a 3000 instead of a 3500. I guess it depends on the tires you'll be running and the goals you have, but I'll stick with my original statement and say 3500 or bigger.
you can stick to youre comment and thats cool, just dont make it sound like other peeps "dont know" because they dont have a huge verter.
it all depends on youre goals.
[/QUOTE]Pewter's combo is a good example of a high drivability, quick street set-up.[/QUOTE]
Thanks brother. Matter of fact Colonel had this very same set up in his car @ one time.
Running high 11's / low 12's i might add!
Big is not always better! It's the combo. Making sure everything works together.
Research!!!!
Good luck!!
Thanks brother. Matter of fact Colonel had this very same set up in his car @ one time.
Running high 11's / low 12's i might add!
Big is not always better! It's the combo. Making sure everything works together.
Research!!!!
Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by PewterY2KZ28
Big is not always better! It's the combo. Making sure everything works together.
Research!!!!
Good luck!!
Research!!!!
Good luck!!
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Remember, you have to consider the performance boost for more than just standing start acceleration. I'd rather have a larger converter and just learn how to launch it on the street without smoking them, but have a more potent punch from a roll. An auto needs a big converter to do anything from a roll.
Check my numbers in sig. The SSF has worked exceptionall well.
Check my numbers in sig. The SSF has worked exceptionall well.
Originally Posted by Ryan1985
didnt know this thread would turn into this. lol i think im going to end up going with a 3500 more than likly a TCI.
Good info provided on the variety of choices! 
I also did a LOT of research and found that the cam I have along with the 3.73 gear seemed to be about the best combo for a Yank SS3600. Keep in mind that I do plan on a 100 dry shot next. What do you guys think about my setup?