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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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When racing do i even touch the 1 2 3 or do i keep it in drive and bringthe RPMS up??? im so confused on peoples mixed opinions. lets get some serious thoughts on this atleast. ANy personal experiences?? Whats the best possbile to race someone with a Stick with our a4's.............01 WS6 A4
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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I assume you are talking about from a roll. In that case, I think it is best to kick it out of OD and into 3rd. I hear it is hard on it to shift out of OD at WOT (and it seems to take a loooong time).

Then what I do (not sure if it's good/bad) depending on my speed/rpm, I may kick it down a gear or two so I don't have to wait for the downshift. It seems that M6s usually get the jump on me while the tranny is downshifting. But as soon as I go WOT, I bump it back into 3rd.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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If you have the trans settings tuned right there is no
way you'll beat the PCM, and no way a M6 will match
the shift quickness / consistency. If you have a proper
torque converter the M6 won't beat you off the line
either (unless your tires suck). On the other hand a
stock/untuned A4 has suck-*** shiftpoint settings
and someone who knows the setup, will want you to
go from a roll that puts you in a crappy starting spot.
So lie.

Street racing is bad. The Man is out to get you and
Mr. Oak Tree would like a piece too. Best find a smarter
place to learn the limits of your abilities and your luck.
You'll meet a better crowd at the track, and not lose
your license beating some unworthy ***-clown in a
fart-can ratmobile.

Only ricers hand-shift an electronically controlled
automatic. Because they have the mad skillz, yo.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
Only ricers hand-shift an electronically controlled
automatic. Because they have the mad skillz, yo.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by peteTA
When racing do i even touch the 1 2 3 or do i keep it in drive and bringthe RPMS up??? im so confused on peoples mixed opinions. lets get some serious thoughts on this atleast. ANy personal experiences?? Whats the best possbile to race someone with a Stick with our a4's.............01 WS6 A4

if im above 30mph and below 40mph
and i stomp the throttle
somtimes it will downshift to 2 instead of 1
so now i manually drop it in 1 using the gear selector
but i put it right back up to 3 right after.
it can handle upshifting perfectly on its own.

if its from a stop, or above 40,
ill leave it in D

but the real reason why my 98 A4 TA beat the 00 M6 TA WS6,
is because i bought the highest stall i could tolerate
and the stickiest tires i could afford.

if your trans is shifting slowly..
i installed a TransGo shift kit
the high stall absorbed alot of the "kick"
so it doesnt shift as hard as it used to,
but it still seems to shift faster.

dont forget the transmission cooler
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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usually pull it down to drive or if i am going slow enough pull it down to 2nd. a big stall with a second gear punch is nasty!!
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by REDWS6ROCKET
usually pull it down to drive or if i am going slow enough pull it down to 2nd. a big stall with a second gear punch is nasty!!
x2 to the point!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Do This, if you sense that a race is coming on the highway, put it in 3rd. Hit it from a 60mph roll that is the sweet spot for automatic cars. Another sweet spot is around 25mph, even at 25mph a manual could still pull.Just depends on the setup. Hope that helps.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by corvet786c
Do This, if you sense that a race is coming on the highway, put it in 3rd. Hit it from a 60mph roll that is the sweet spot for automatic cars. Another sweet spot is around 25mph, even at 25mph a manual could still pull.Just depends on the setup. Hope that helps.
Of course using these speeds as WOT points isn't accurate from car to car. Rear axle gear ratio is a very important factor in takeoff speed. Many like to take off at 25-30 mph. I love to leave at 40 mph. I can get a VERY hard launch from a 40 then shortly after get a second gear scratch to leave him behind. If you have factory gears but don't know what they are. Look at your drivers side door and on the back there are some production codes. They are listed in alphabetical order. If you code is a GU2, you have 2.73 gears and a steel driveshaft. If you have a GU5, you have 3.23 and an aluminum DS. Now if you are a M6, you will more than likely have a GU6, 3.42 gears. Not sure of the DS on the GU6 though.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by REDWS6ROCKET
usually pull it down to drive or if i am going slow enough pull it down to 2nd. a big stall with a second gear punch is nasty!!
i second that motion. from 30 mph in 2nd, i can pull 2 cars on an m6 before i hit 50. after about 60 is what tells the story of who has the hp.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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What works best for me, is to set my *roll* at 2000 rpm...in almost any gear, I get a great down shift. However I will say that I have a preference for 20, 40, or 60 mph, if on a roll, but my true preference is from a standing start with warm DR's, so I can take full advantage of 1st gear. God, I love that raped ape howl, out of the hole!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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DAM, I think i learned something tonight thanks now i'm going to go bust a nutt!
Good night everybody !
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by corvet786c
Do This, if you sense that a race is coming on the highway, put it in 3rd. Hit it from a 60mph roll that is the sweet spot for automatic cars. Another sweet spot is around 25mph, even at 25mph a manual could still pull.Just depends on the setup. Hope that helps.
That's the best pull for me also, 25 and 60. Not sure how 40 can be good. It's a bog for me.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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I only leave it in 1rst to make sure I have traction on the launch. Otherwise if I "pedal it", it'll sometimes shift into 2nd and bog. As soon as I'm hooked it goes right into drive. No gear holding.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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I race in D(OD for camaro folks). If its a roll race i'll pull down into the correct gear to get a jump on even some m6's.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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With the 4L60E, and you are going to "drag race" it, leave it in OD. This will prevent the overrun clutch assembly from coming on, especially on the 2-3 shift where you need all the oil going to the 3-4 clutches on a WOT shift, and not to the overrun setup also. Dyno tests have shown this to be the best way of doing this with the least amount of problems. A 2-3 flare at WOT in the "D" position, and the flare is not happening in the OD position is indicative of not enough oil going to the 3-4 clutches. This is only "one" of the good reasons why the 3-4 clutch pack will live longer when you leave it in the OD position when drag racing it.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Also, it has been recommended by my tranny builder to leave it in 1st gear for the burnout, not only for a more controllable burnout, but the tranny actually engages an extra clutch for more holding power when shifter is in 1.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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I've read so many of these threads and I still dunno the best way to race. With stock 3.23 car should I just leave it in OD and stick to 0/25/65 races?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mpe488
I've read so many of these threads and I still dunno the best way to race. With stock 3.23 car should I just leave it in OD and stick to 0/25/65 races?
i'd follow pro built auto's advice. Trans builds should know them best.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Best et's ive had from a dead stop was in D from a stop and flashin the converter. During a burnout i would leave it in 1st
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