i have a 00 T/A thats gonna have all bolt ons and some vincci 1.8 roller rockers and stock cam and am considering getting a 2800-3200 stahl. what are the cons or drawbacks (besides tire smoke) of a higher stahl T/C?

this car is my daily driver and will never see the track. im not even sure if its practical because i drive it in the winter/snow (with 16' all season tires) and i think the str would keap me from getting any traction from a stop.

let me hear your guys opinion on this cuz im really on the fence on this one.

 

A drawback would be if you go with too high of a stall. I had a 3400 in my car for awhile and just did not care for the loose feel so I put the 2600 back in. Now the 2600 has no drawbacks at all. The car probably should have come with one.

 

No real draw backs. Go with a 3000 at least. It should be better in winter because you do not transfer as much power to the wheels with the bigger stall until you get closer to the stall speed. I highly recommend a stall, makes the car a ton more fun to drive.

 

aren't gas mileage and decreased transmission longevity drawbacks??? (unless you get a tranny cooler which is also a drawback.)

 

How is getting a tranny cooler a drawback? Just consider it part of the converter install.

Gas mileage doesn't really change much, depends a little on how big you go. Highway mileage remains about the same.

I haven't heard about tranny longevity issues. I had my Midwest 3200 in for over 2 yrs along with removing torque management with no problems.

 

In my opinion there are no draw backs except for the gas mileage. I have a 3200 Yank Converter and you notice the gas change but not much.If you go like a 3600 stall or higher I would recomend a trans cooler.

 

I would get a bigger cooler regardless of what aftermarket converter you get.

 

I see you're using the Yank SS3200. How is that converter from a slow takeoff. I've been told they are very tight, which is what I want. Thanks!
Ed

 

when you say "tight" what does that mean?

 

doesnt take much of any more throttle to move it from a stop..

 

Highway mileage will remain the same since it locks up. I was checking my gas mileage when I drove to FL and I got 366 miles before I went to fill up and I still had 3 gallons left. City driving is where things will change but that all depends on how heavy your foot is since it is easier to regulate the pedal better.

 

when ordering a T/C is their a way to specify more "tight".
are some T/C manufacturers just tighter than others?
if i decide to get a T/C im thinking tighter would be better. are their drawbacks to a tight T/C?

 

i dono just call one of our sponcers(yank, fuddle) and ask them they`ll explain it to ya and tell us the answer i would like to know as well..

 

Tight meaning when you give gas how soon the car will react. If the converter is loose, it will take more revs to get the car moving. The tach will also move alot quicker from 1000-2500, looks like the wind is blowing the tach when you tap the gas.
Also if you are on a hill, the car will roll back on you like a manual so be aware of that.

 

I think STR plays a big part in how tight the converter feels. A tighter feeling converter is less efficient I believe. Not 100% sure on this though.

 

I agree.

 

What I mean is, how much more, if any, throttle does it take to get it moving from a dead stop, on a gentle start. How different from stock is it? Also, will the car still creep when you put it in gear? That is what I am hoping for, though I realize it will be less than stock. With my current setup, the car idles at 800 rpm, and, in my opinion, actually pulls too hard in gear when the car is stopped. Drivability is a chief concern of mine. I want the performance while sacrificing as little "daily driver drivability" as possible. I believe the Yank SS3200 is the converter I want because of the designed "tightness" of the SS series, but was looking for opinions of users. Thanks!
Ed

 

i have a vig. 3200 it wont creep and isnt too bad as far as rolling back and there is no drivability issues, i should have gone higher of a stall. it drives pretty good below 3200. Around 1300-2600 is when it takes off from a stop. Not a YankSS but just giving my .02

 

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Thanks, I appreciate it. I was also hoping for some real-world experience with a Yank SS3200. I believe they are supposed to be much tighter than the normal 3200 converter.
Ed