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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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We're putting a Vigilante converter in my brother's Z28. Turns out that the stock, allan wrench type head, bolts won't go all the way into the new converter. So we're in the process of finding the bolts... meanwhile we went ahead and bolted the tranny back up because we can still get to the converter bolts through the starter hole. What I want to know is shouldn't we be able to rotate the crankshaft? We were able to move it before hand but after we bolted up the tranny it doesn't seem like it wants to move anymore. Does that make any sense since the converter's not even bolted up yet? Does it sound like something's been installed wrong?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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You should be able to rotate the crankshaft, if that doesnt work, put the driveshaft back in and make sure that your in neutral and turn that.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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I spun the crank using the crank pulley bolt and 1/2 ratchet.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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you did fully seat the converter on the trans before you put the trans on the car right?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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hey guys, I'm working w/ him on the install. The converter will not seat properly all the way onto the shaft. We turned it while pushing down at the same time, and it seated a little(1/2---3/4 inch) but we were told that it needs to seat alot further down than that to be considered mounted properly. We are at ends meet w/ this damn converter, it is holding us up from making real progress. It is a vigilanti stall converter and he bought it used from a guy that said it came off of an LS1 camaro, we compared the new vigi to the stock converter, and the holes are the same size and the teeth down inside look the same, as the have the same 3 little grooves in the same location on each other. Any tricks to getting this thing to seat down properly?? We even tried putting the car in different gears, although I've been told that nuetral was the gear to have it in when doing the install.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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keep working at it and it will go. Look in there with a light and see what position the pump gears are at and try to stab the converter some more. if you dont get it all the way in, the tranny pump will get broken immediately
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:48 PM
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Yeah just work at it, hopefully by now you got it all the way in, it will eventually click in.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. We finally got it all the way on but now it seems that the pump bushing is probably messed up because it won't spin easily. It takes a lot of effort to spin it and our tranny guys said that wasn't normal. We'll take care of it though. Thanks again!
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Im the one whose car it is being installed in, im taking to tranny to get that bushing replaced so yeehaww some more money from mistakes lol Thanks for the replies fellas
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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replace your front seal while you are at it. I didnt and payed the price... i only takes a few extra minutes.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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You might of messed up the front pump trying to put it in before you realised it wouldnt go.Did you actually try tightening/pulling it to the block?Sucks man,I was worrried when I did mine as well!Hope its nothing major.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Yeah we tightened it to the block and the converter still was really hard to turn. I think we probably did mess up the bushing or seal on the pump. We're taking it to a guy who will check it all out for us. We'll probably get the front seal replaced also. Thanks.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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The transmission guy said we ruined the pump so im getting a new one in tomorrow and should have it in the car tomorrow, still gotta put the block back together (heads are off due to replacing valvetrain) but hopefully i'll get my computer back in time to show her off this weekend.
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curious what did the new pump cost u? did u install that yourself?
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