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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Do you have to have the shifts re-tuned with something like a 3200 or less stall.

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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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I put a 3400 2.1 str fuddle in my 99 ws-6 and i didnt need a tune, the shift point were fine i want to tune my car so i can remove the TM,but i know some people that had to tune their cars after they put a stall in but i guess thats up to the mods that you have.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Anything over 3200 should be tuned. So as long as you are below that Youre fine IMO.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbluegoat
Do you have to have the shifts re-tuned with something like a 3200 or less stall.
We did no shift point tuning on mine with the 3200.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Above 3400 you may throw a code the VCM may think the trans is slipping but other than that no tuning is necessary.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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So will I need to tune at all for my SF3000?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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4K untuned here and no codes. I've been running it for 8 monthes daily

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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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So are you throwing codes deadman? When reversing or coming to a stopr does your car surge at all?

I need a tune, I just put in a 4k stall.
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I have a 4200 stall and never tuned that mod. I never had any issues.

I even had 4.10s for a while untuned. Shift points never changed. Only the speedo was off.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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I would get a tune for maximum performance!!!!
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:14 AM
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At work so for the delay. No it not tuned, YET! It doesn't so much surge, but stubles to find idle when i roll to a stop if that helps.
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I have a Fuddle 3400 2.1 that did require a tune after the install. I was hitting the rev limiter at the 1-2 and 2-3 shift points. I got a mail order tune and the car runs great now.
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I ran a 2800 untuned, when I went to my 4000 I had to do a bit of tweaking to the TCC lockup points.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by '00_Z
So will I need to tune at all for my SF3000?
I had done some tuning previous to installing mine, and didn't retune after. No problems.
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best thing to do is work on your TM so it firms up shifts other than that I would not do anything else unless you throw a code.
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best thing to do is work on your TM so it firms up shifts other than that I would not do anything else unless you throw a code.
Getting rid of tq managment doesnt firm up shifts, it just keeps the car from falling on its face in between shifts. Increasing line pressure via tune is what firms up the sifts. I have a Fuddle 3400 2.2str and it doesnt throw any codes, it shifts great with the tune i had before it. All i had done in that previous tune was delete tq mngmnt, increase line pressure and raise the desired tq. Other than that the car has not been tuned since the stall was put in. And its running good.
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I recently bought a 2002 WS6 with a Yank 3200 stall converter and a 216/224/LSA 115 cam (Crane) in it ... it was tuned with a Vinci hand held tuner; The car does does have problems (large loping .. RPM searching / flux) with sudden throttle influence @ or near idle and when cold). When I coast or lightly brake to a stop, the car usually finds idle just fine. However, if I jerk the throttle at or near idle (start and stop traffic scenario) .. I have to use the brake and gas to catch it so that it (the computer)won't lose control and die on me. Is there a remedy for this behavior???
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i have had to tune all stalls other than stock. First shiftpoints...misfire detection messes up lock up
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I ran a 2800 untuned, when I went to my 4000 I had to do a bit of tweaking to the TCC lockup points.
how did you like the 2800 TC I'm currently mildly modded daily driver thinking this is the stall speed for me.

any comments on the 2800 would help me decide on tc size.

thanks
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I recently bought a 2002 WS6 with a Yank 3200 stall converter and a 216/224/LSA 115 cam (Crane) in it ... it was tuned with a Vinci hand held tuner; The car does does have problems (large loping .. RPM searching / flux) with sudden throttle influence @ or near idle and when cold). When I coast or lightly brake to a stop, the car usually finds idle just fine. However, if I jerk the throttle at or near idle (start and stop traffic scenario) .. I have to use the brake and gas to catch it so that it (the computer)won't lose control and die on me. Is there a remedy for this behavior???
how you liking the cam? most here go much bigger then wonder why HP #s are lower than TC #s I presonally like bigger torque #s
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