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Old May 19, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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personally id go with just the 3k stall...itd still wake up, above a 3200 ur looking at heat and wear on a stock tranny
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Old May 19, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by staringback05
personally id go with just the 3k stall...itd still wake up, above a 3200 ur looking at heat and wear on a stock tranny
that's the kind of answer I am looking for. This is going to be my daily driver and will just have a couple of romps on it per day and I want to know what would be best. For a stock tranny with a shift kit I am thinking 3000 is where i should be...anything wrong with a stall and a shift kit intalleD?
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyblackhoe
can you explain the looseness?
It's the feeling of the slippage of the converter ... your engine is revving up faster than the drivetrain is turning until the converter gets close to its rated stall speed.
For a stock tranny with a shift kit I am thinking 3000 is where i should be...anything wrong with a stall and a shift kit intalleD?
That's my set-up and it works great on the street. The 3000 is still pretty tight - esp. w/3.23 and lower gears - and the shift kit firms up the shifts (which tend to be soft after the converter is installed).
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Old May 21, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtyblackhoe
Man I never thought yall would be running such high stall convertors. What is the advantage/disadvantage of a higher stall. With this being my DD i want to keep gas mileage as good as possible BTW
Don't worry about daily driving with a big stall, it's not that bad. In fact, my Camaro with the th350 /w 4k stall gets better gas mileage than my stock '91 Lumina does, which is my daily driver
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Old May 23, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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The only disadvantage to getting a stall is that, you will have to buy one for all auto's to come. The SUV, Grocery getter, beater car etc.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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awesome guys. I just talked to Fuddle and he suggested a 3000/2.0 for me since I plan to stay stock internals and no cam for a while....so as soon as the car gets here that is going ot be ordered.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
You will benefit from the stall in 2 ways.

When you floor it, instead of ******* its way up the powerband (slowly increasing rpms), it will flash it to 3k rpms (or whatever your stall is set at). It is similar to dumping the clutch in a 6-speed car.

Secondly, when you are driving certain MPH (40 and 70 for me), when you floor it you will hit dead spots. The gear will not drop down and you will slowly pull through 2k, 3k, 4k rpms and so on. With the stall, when you floor it, there will be no dead spot. It will flash up to your stall speed.

Having a stall puts your car into its peak power spots much quicker. You will drop about a second in the quarter mile with a 3500 stall and sticky tires.

On stock/bolt on cars 3-3500 is a good stall. I would not go less than 3000 though.
If you add a medium sized cam, 3800-4000 is a good point. A huge cam would benefit from 4400+ sized stalls.

Most people don't experience bad gas mileage as a direct result from the stall. However, you may find yourself hot rodding a bit more!
I just took a vid from a roll at 40mph, I'll post it up so you can see what this guy was talking about. I have full exhaust now as well as a cam but you can still see the converter flash up.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Here's the vid, this was all done in 2nd gear. Took about 7 seconds to hit 85 from 40, not too bad for just 1 gear.

40mph roll WOT
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Old May 25, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I agree with your 2800 choice. I know I'm in the minority but I hate the feel of a high stall car (even though it may shine at the track).
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Old May 27, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
So 3500+ stalls dont over heat the tranny on a DD?

as i understand it, any aftermarket converter will heat the tranny, requiring a cooler.

I've seen some complaints/issues with fuddle lately.

Precision Industres (Vigilante) is pretty much the best in the business. I love mine.

Yank is also highly recommended
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