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Old 01-15-2007, 10:43 AM
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I have a TCI and love it. Great street manners and the 60 ft times don't lie. Also the BEST tech service.
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This is a very old debate. I think the YANK converters are the most efficient. I also think they have many more problems with failures than VIG. TCI and Fuddle have shown good results, but not as consistently as YANK and VIG. I have never seen a VIG fail on anyone. I have always seen strong results with them.

I just ordered the stall for my car. I went with a vig3600. I had an offer to buy a YANK 4000 for $450 locally, but I'd rather have the reliable VIG.
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funny my friends lockup clutch went out on his Vig..like last week!
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
funny my friends lockup clutch went out on his Vig..like last week!
I'm talking about personal experience. I've known about a dozen people personally with vig converters. I haven't seen a failure. I've owned one in the past. They always perform.

When the lockup clutch goes out wouldn't you see some junk in the trans filter? Many times it is just a tuning issue. You could check that.

I bet when your friend sends it to PI he has no problems getting it warrantied if there is a problem.
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just because you havent seen a failure doesn't mean they don't have problems.

Lockup clutches go out and wear out or if they weren't right from the get go from the factory.

I've have stories good and bad about every converter out there.

And no its not a tuning issue..
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Originally Posted by LS1x2
I'm talking about personal experience. I've known about a dozen people personally with vig converters. I haven't seen a failure. I've owned one in the past. They always perform.

When the lockup clutch goes out wouldn't you see some junk in the trans filter? Many times it is just a tuning issue. You could check that.

I bet when your friend sends it to PI he has no problems getting it warrantied if there is a problem.
dude they have sold enough converter to have problems. and i can not believe that you have not read more than a few post about problems with their converters. i am not saying that they are not one of the best but if you sell enough of anything you will have problems. i will also say this most (not all) of the problems occur because of poor installation and not following directions.
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Originally Posted by mullenh
dude they have sold enough converter to have problems. and i can not believe that you have not read more than a few post about problems with their converters. i am not saying that they are not one of the best but if you sell enough of anything you will have problems. i will also say this most (not all) of the problems occur because of poor installation and not following directions.

Sure, but their quality control is better IMO. I really don't care what a bunch of people in some message board with little experience with the parts say. I've had enough experience with them to have confidence in them. I just ordered mine.
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I'd go vig, mines great.
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Originally Posted by LS1x2
Sure, but their quality control is better IMO. I really don't care what a bunch of people in some message board with little experience with the parts say. I've had enough experience with them to have confidence in them. I just ordered mine.
well you did not make a mistake but there are others out there that are top notch and i am speaking from personal experience too. also i am not talking about 'friends' but customers, but like i said you did not make a mistake ordering the vig. particularly if it is what you want. but vig or precision industries who make the vig line for the 4L series trans. does not have the corner on producing a converter that is 'better than anyone' elses.
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Originally Posted by RiPPinZ11
Hey how are used converters? worth it or kinda iffy? thanks
i bought a used Yank 3200 and less than a year later it went out and took my goebel with it, twice.
Old 02-11-2007, 11:43 AM
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I had a Yank SS3200 in my cammed LS1, no problems. And now I run their Pro Ext 3400 & no problems again. They both hit hard (see my 60' times below) & drive like stock. They are also very efficient (low temps, good mph)

I am also impressed with their service. They will talk to you about what is best, and build something special if you want it. They also stand behind their stuff. I had a leak & Keith told me to send the stalll back for a free repair if that is what it was. Turned out to be the front seal.
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I have had my TCI SSF3500 on my D/D for over two years with no problems.

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I came from a TCI 3000 stall 4l60e to a VIG. 4000 stalled TH350 and i love my VIG. over my TCI the quality is far superior u can tell a difference.
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THATS BECuse you only been here a year.. no offense but look back to the 03-04-05 archives yank had lots of problems and people were mad..

that being said so has tci and fuddle (more recently)

vig seems to get more of a netural responce but earily on with their mulit disc units there were some issues too

finally i heard about warrenty being a good measure.. not really, think KIA best warrent crappy car right? also to warrent a couple hundred dollar converter when it takes out a $4000 transmission means nothing

personally i had a tci the 1st go arround because they were a reletively well match converter for what a stock 4l60e can handle.. again why buy a 1000hp rated converter when your tranny is gonna **** out at 500 and take the converter with it... also at that time (the ssf 3500 way considered one of the best)

now that im a little more in the game and planning on building a 1000hp capiable tranny for my future plans i think i will look into a $1000 converter.. at the same time i will definately not consider any company with a quality controll issue ... this is because id rather run .01 sec slower in the qtr and know my converter is a solid piece then have cutting edge technology that blows up and takes out an expensive tranny....

to conclude.. who the **** knows what to buy its kinda like the ford\chevy arguments.. the only real piece of advice i can think of as of now is try and get your converter and tranny from the same vendor.. that away when one takes out the other they cant play the blame game.. also if your buying a converter for a stock transmission DONT SPEND $1,000 for some super converter.. yea it has better parts but like i said above you will never need them (for the power levles a stock tranny can handle) and by the time you build a new tranny you'll want a new converter anayways (trust me)

also to add my little bit of bias approx 550bhp stock tranny ssf 3500 running strong

Originally Posted by HossZ28
I plan on getting a yank. I started off wanting fuddle, too many complaints, then moved to tci, same deal, then to vig, now to Yank. Of all the reading on converters i have done i have not read a complaint about a Yank.

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Old 02-14-2007, 11:00 AM
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i wonder how many people with failures actually monitered their tranny fluid temps....
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I loved my TCI up to this week. Problems with lock up. After more investigation, they have about a 15% return on the converters for our cars. I am VERY dissappointed. I will replace it with something else. Probably a Yank!!
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had a TCI 4000 in my som ws6....loved it anyways you are gonna hear pros and cons with all brnads...all brands make faulty equipment...ive heard bad thinbgs about all....but i have a friend that swears by them and he ran a tci 3500 for over 3 years and was running h/c/nitours/DR's and the tranny and stall finally gave out at 168k on the motor and tranny and about 100k on the stall....seen it make numerous 6 second passes and that was enough to sell me!!! to each their own....dont hate on what sum1 else chooses....im sure m,ost ppl research beofre they up and buy
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gonna try a midwest 3800 billet race converter.... ill post up my opnion here in 2 weeks, i just bought this and a flt stage 4 tranny from nasty
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Why isn't the ATI Treemaster up there?????


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