Automatic Transmission 2-Speed thru 10-Speed GM Autos | Converters | Shift Kits
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Buy a shift kit??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 01:53 PM
  #1  
Automaticfastic's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: In a house.
Default Buy a shift kit??

I was wondering should I buy a shift kit? And is it cost alot to have someone install it? I was just wondering if that is something you even need or just a waste of money.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:19 PM
  #2  
tiresmoker's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Central Ohio
Default

Just buy a predator & adjust the shift pressure with that...you don't need to take the tranny apart.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:19 PM
  #3  
monicaz28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

Originally Posted by tiresmoker
Just buy a predator & adjust the shift pressure with that...you don't need to take the tranny apart.
That's a pretty simple fix right there.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:28 PM
  #4  
Automaticfastic's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: In a house.
Default

Originally Posted by tiresmoker
Just buy a predator & adjust the shift pressure with that...you don't need to take the tranny apart.
Link me over to where I would buy one. I just dont wanna buy a cheap *** $70 part and it cost a shitload more to install it.

Thanx for the feedback
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 02:34 PM
  #5  
monicaz28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

Originally Posted by Automaticfastic
Link me over to where I would buy one. I just dont wanna buy a cheap *** $70 part and it cost a shitload more to install it.

Thanx for the feedback
Well, if money is the issue, you might be able to just get the shift kit done for cheaper. I'm sure a lot of people carry Predator... they're like $400 from Thunder Racing, but you can do more than just change the shift pressure with the programmer.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 03:11 PM
  #6  
Automaticfastic's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: In a house.
Default

http://www.lmperformance.com/2005/1.html

that one says you have to remove the valve body. What the hell is that and is that expensive to pay for someone to do this. As you can tell I dont need to be working on any car with my knowledge.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 03:51 PM
  #7  
2kta--89formula's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: Deland, Florida
Default

I had a Transgo kit put in my car..........now it short shifts at 5200 from first to second I should have left it alone!
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 04:49 PM
  #8  
AK's WS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Default

Well, i'm more than happy with my shift kit. I paid $93 for the kit from PBA and $50 to have it installed, it was money well spent. It's a good up grade in parts for these trannys, i'd do the kit over raising the line pressure any day of the week.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-6

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 06:41 PM
  #9  
todddchi's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,373
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Default

Ls1 engine, 4l60e tranny, AJE Tubular K member, Hooker LT, baby cam, stall to 3400, open cut-outs to be cadillac quite, SFC, Air Lid(need a new one). Soon to come, Tranny cooler, 3.73 in a limited slip rear end, Leather seats,T-stat, remote start after a badly needed dyno tune.


-------------------------------------------------

If those are your mods the shift behavior can be worked on during your tune, and a Predator would be like throwing $400 in the garbage. There would be some merit in buying the predator if it is a shop that uses them as part of their dyno package, but otherwise the tune completely over-rules it.

However you look at it, if you want tire chirping shifts then you are looking at a shift kit. The stall converter softens your shifts up, and a shift kit can help restore some firmness.

However you want to look at it if those are really your mods you should just leave it alone and have the shifting tweaked during your dyno tune.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 07:14 PM
  #10  
AK's WS6's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by todddchi
Ls1 engine, 4l60e tranny, AJE Tubular K member, Hooker LT, baby cam, stall to 3400, open cut-outs to be cadillac quite, SFC, Air Lid(need a new one). Soon to come, Tranny cooler, 3.73 in a limited slip rear end, Leather seats,T-stat, remote start after a badly needed dyno tune.


-------------------------------------------------

If those are your mods the shift behavior can be worked on during your tune, and a Predator would be like throwing $400 in the garbage. There would be some merit in buying the predator if it is a shop that uses them as part of their dyno package, but otherwise the tune completely over-rules it.

However you look at it, if you want tire chirping shifts then you are looking at a shift kit. The stall converter softens your shifts up, and a shift kit can help restore some firmness.

However you want to look at it if those are really your mods you should just leave it alone and have the shifting tweaked during your dyno tune.
I completley agree with you in the 1st paragraph, but in the 2nd paragraph the comment about "tire chirping shifts" isn't completely true and it's what usually scares people away from getting a shift kit. It all depends on how it's setup. Yes, you can get harsh tire chirping shifts, but it can be setup to be barely noticable under normal shifts and nice and crisp at WOT all with the same kit...it's all in the setup
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:56 PM
  #11  
PBA's Avatar
PBA
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 969
Likes: 119
Default

That is how I setup my modified Trans-Go Performance Shift kits, "to be barely noticable under normal shifts and nice and crisp at WOT".
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:08 AM
  #12  
jzzamesb's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: west TN
Default

raising line pressure is a bad idea. Go with the transgo
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:09 AM
  #13  
Automaticfastic's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
From: In a house.
Default

I guess I will see how the cars doing after a tune. Thanx for the input.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:20 PM
  #14  
vMaster0fPuppets's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 965
Likes: 0
From: Levittown, PA
Default

I just installed a shift kit two days ago. First time doing anything with the transmission, and it took about 13 hrs. Startede at like 2 I had to stop at about 10:30 because I small screen broke. Started at about 2 the next day and wwas finished by 4. If you can follow instructions you can do it. I found some online writeups from people who installed it that help me alot. I will post them if your going to attempt this yourself.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 04:42 PM
  #15  
monicaz28's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,173
Likes: 0
From: DFW
Default

Originally Posted by jzzamesb
raising line pressure is a bad idea. Go with the transgo
Would you care to expand on that?
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2006 | 08:39 PM
  #16  
todddchi's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,373
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Default

It's an age old debate, but the basics of it is that line pressures vary from transmission to transmission. Not only do they vary but the capacity of each individual transmission varies as well.

This is due to production tolerances - variations from transmission to transmission. So it is generally felt that just jacking up the line pressure is not a good idea. You can argue all day about "well, just xxxx much should be ok..." but it is what it is. You can choose to believe it or not.

Far as the tunability of a shift kit, I didn't mean to imply they HAD to be setup for tire chirping shifts... it's just usually when most people ask about them... that is what they are looking for.


Originally Posted by monicaz28
Would you care to expand on that?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:27 PM.

story-0
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-1
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-3
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-6
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-7
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-8
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE