1/4 mile difference Bone Stock + 4000 Stall?
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Originally Posted by SDB
5 converter over different engine combo's
the cars you mention are NOT stock, just because they are stock cam, does not mean STOCK. 4000 is too much for a daily driven STOCK LS1 car...period. Not a good combo. I know with all supporting mods, light weight, etc. you can run real good, BUT again....on a totally stock f-body, down to tires and tune, a 4000 stall is not a great choice at all, and will not get .5-.8 in the quarter...period. I don't car about cars with every ******* mod EXCEPT cam, etc. I am talking totally stock because that is what the poster said.
the cars you mention are NOT stock, just because they are stock cam, does not mean STOCK. 4000 is too much for a daily driven STOCK LS1 car...period. Not a good combo. I know with all supporting mods, light weight, etc. you can run real good, BUT again....on a totally stock f-body, down to tires and tune, a 4000 stall is not a great choice at all, and will not get .5-.8 in the quarter...period. I don't car about cars with every ******* mod EXCEPT cam, etc. I am talking totally stock because that is what the poster said.
Well I guess we can disagree. I don't think any amount of internet arguing will change our views. There is enough information out there for the original poster to search and come to his own conclusion.
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Originally Posted by SDB
I said a TOTOALLY stock car, as the starter of this thread said, will NOT pick up .5-.8 in the quarter on STOCK TIRES>>>>>>>period.
Yes, drag radials would make it much easier.
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well im basically stock (lid,muffler--not a catback and a stall). Stock i ran 13.4-13.5's all day long. Put a lid on then the stall and went down to 13.0 and spinning like hell 2.1 60's so there is a bunch more et in that combo.. Since then i put on the muffler i also changed the converter to a 3,800-4,000 stall and less str. Take offs are much easier as i can roll into the throttle and shift extention doesnt drop below 5k. Now all i have to do is get thoes mt et drag's and ill be set. So a stock car can definately drop .5 with a 3k converter and a bit more with a higher stall. This topic has been beat to death and if you do enough research you will find that 3,500 is the sweetspot for a stock car and a few mods. I got the 4k for future mods.
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the car was completely stock except for a lid and 373 gears. i added a 4k stall (still on the stock tune) - it went like this:
8.73 @ 83
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8.18 @ 80 banging the limiter on 2-3 roughly 7-8 times. i added a 4k stall and drag radials, nothing else.
with bolt-ons i was down to 7.68-7.71 @ 87-88 before i sold the car.
8.73 @ 83
to
8.18 @ 80 banging the limiter on 2-3 roughly 7-8 times. i added a 4k stall and drag radials, nothing else.
with bolt-ons i was down to 7.68-7.71 @ 87-88 before i sold the car.
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again.....the poster said completely stock...no lid, exhaust, drag radials, 3.73 gears...etc. I am saying that a 4000 converter in a copletely bone stock car is a mismatch, and will not perform as well as a 3000-3500 stall, and will not get .5-.8 in the quarter with no other supporting mods at all.
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oh yea like a lid and a muffler really wakes up a stall, please. A lid adv 8hp and a muffler around 5hp and maybe .10 in the 1/4. So come on man your trying to split hairs to save your . Now if you want to say that switching from a 3,500 stall to a 4,000 stall wont net much difference i would agree with.
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Originally Posted by SDB
I am saying that a 4000 converter in a copletely bone stock car is a mismatch, and will not perform as well as a 3000-3500 stall, and will not get .5-.8 in the quarter with no other supporting mods at all.
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a 4k stalled car will outperform a 3-3.5k stalled car assuming they're both stock. there is no argument to this.