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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Patrick, or anyone in the know? The converter made especially for the LS-1's in the 3800 range between the YTP 4000 and 4400--any info yet on when it'll be released? Thanks. WJ. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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WJ,

Yank has just started production of the Super Stock 3600 and Super Stock 3800. They differ from the Super Thruster 3500/3800 in that they have a more agressive stator, which gives them snappier throttle response, a harder hit to the tires, deeper torque multiplication, and less shift extension (making it better for running a power adder). They will hit the tires hard like a Vigilante 3200-3600 and share its good street manners, but it will exceed it by having longer torque multiplication and higher converter efficiency. The stator is an all-new design that will be used in 2004 rear drive Cadillacs. It has 25 blades vs. the 18 blades used in the popular converters by the competition. GM spent countless hours developing the new stator and they are in very limited supply. The cost of the converters will be the same as the Super Thrusters: $895. This includes a larger 258mm clutch (vs 245mm of the competition and the old ST line) with beefier construction and a reconfigured clutch lining.

Call Mike at Yank for more details: 479-632-6355.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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Patrick G, how is the SS 3800 going to compare with the PYE3600 I'm running now? Particularly the shift extension. I still get confused on the more/less shift extension. I don't run a power adder.

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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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The shift extension on the SS3800 will be higher than the PY3600E because it's a smaller diameter converter with less holding capacity. The shift extension on the PY3600E is around 4500-4600. The shift extension on the SS3800 should be around 5,000 rpms. The SS3800 will hit the tires harder than the Pro Yank (because of higher stall and higher stall torque ratio), but it will only be a little less driveable...not nearly as loose as a Pro Thruster 4000 like I'm running now.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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The shift extension on my PYE3600 is around 4200 rpm. That's what I miss about my old ST3800. Had a shift extension of around 4900 with it. What will the actual STR ratings be on these new converters? Will they go through actual in car testing before they are available for purchase? I don't see anything on Yank's web site yet.
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Can you guy's please explain what shift extension is? I've never heard that term before. FYI I had a custom converter built (3800 stall), but I can only footbrake it up to around 3400 before I can't hold back the car. Once I leave the line the converter never goes below 6k rpm! Is this typical? I am using 2 power adders (turbo and nos). Thanks,
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Thanks Patrick. When will you be testing yours?? And when can we order one? Again, thanks. WJ. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Old Oct 16, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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Well I got off my duff and did a search to find out what shift extension is. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> So my converter's shift extension is 6000rpm... seems kinda high for a 3800 stall converter? I'm guessing that HP and Tq have a effect on shift extension also?
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Dave: you are correct about TQ's effect on extension. That's why a converter built for adder use is built tighter with less shift extension. When the power adder kicks in, the extension will not be dragged out as much. 6000 rpm on the spray is probably not optimal unless your cam and gears have you shifting at 7k.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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Ragtop is correct,1200rpm MAX shift extension is good.Anymore and u are shooting yourself in the foot.N20 would want even less,more like 700 to 1000rpm...

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Old Oct 20, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Any more info on these converters? I was looking to get a PYE3600 to run N/A until I get a power adder. The SS line seems like it bridges the gap between the old ST line and running a PT4000+. I only plan on spraying between 100-150HP. The car is a daily driver so the added streetabily of this line is attractive. Any suggestions?

2xLS1 - How is the PYE3600? Mine SS is stock (345HP) for now. The converter is the first mod.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 08:10 AM
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Yank should start shipping the first batch of these converters this week. I would look for a new page on the Yank website describing them very soon.

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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Warren are U looking into buying one of these ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

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I fitted my PY3400 over the weekend with the help of a friend. I think this makes me the 1st car in Australia to run a Yank Converter. I love the way it feels over the stock converter. Feels like I've picked up 50 hp at the wheels. Traction is always a challenge. Shift extension in my car is 4200rpm.

I choose the PY3400 over the ST/SY3500 because I heard Yank were dropping the ST/SY series converters. I didn't realise the PY3400 has 6 bolt mounting lugs. I thought only the Extreme has the 6 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Never mind, I drilled the extra holes to utilise the bolts that were supplied. My next converter will definately be a Yank again and I'd go bigger <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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I installed the Super Stock 3800 in my car last night. It's everything that Yank said it would be. Hit to the tires is very positive as is the mid range punch. Much more driveable than the Pro Thruster 4000 I was running.

Shift extension from a 6500 upshift is 4900-5000 rpms (compared to 5500-5600 on my YPT4000). This converter will be absolutely ideal on nitrous with it's unique 25 blade stator.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Why is 25 blade stator better then 18 blade one? And if it's better will it be eventually replace the 18 blade in most of the Yank's product line? Being 258mm, is it mainly a power adder converter? If someone will be running only NA, how would it fare compared to other models?
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:59 PM
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The SS3800 is a 245mm converter, not the 258mm size as used in the Pro Yanks. The 25 blade stator is better than the 18 blade models for certain applications:

Higher STR
Harder hit to the tires
Less shift extension (better for power adders)
Better throttle tip-in (driveability)
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Patrick, are you saying this is or "is not" a ideal converter for a NA, stock-cammed, stock headded car? Thanks. WJ. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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WJ,

I would say the SS3600 is absolutely ideal for a stock cammed, stock cammed car...especially if it doesn't have a lot of gear.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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Hi Patrick. Many thanks. When will you be posting some track results, soon?? WJ. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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