yank 4000SS on the street...
01-07-2008, 01:04 AM
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yank 4000SS on the street... how's this converter for the street? take in mind I've never driven a stalled auto car coming from the M6 world and this may be a possibility down the road. what could I expect as far as daily driving? leaving from a light normal throttle what would the car move at roughly? as a example i think dumped true duals w/ bullets, 4.11's, rear seat delete, skinnies/slicks, drag shocks/springs are all good for a Daily....
what about lockup? you can set that with tuning correct? whats most people's lockup at? i was thinking 45mph but not really sure how it all works.
does this converter work with my mods?
dart 205cc heads
manley valves/ HS rockers
patriot gold springs
232/234 .595/.598 112 LSA "torquer V2"
LS6 ported oil pump
ls6 intake & lid
TSP true duals dumped
pacesetter LT's
UD pulleys
moser 9 inch has 4.11's in if i swap to the auto 3.73's for sure.
UMI double adj. LCA's
UMI double adj. PHB
HAL QA1 shocks 300lb front springs stock rear
sorry for the novel but this would be a big ordeal and dont' want to screw it up...
Chad
what about lockup? you can set that with tuning correct? whats most people's lockup at? i was thinking 45mph but not really sure how it all works.
does this converter work with my mods?
dart 205cc heads
manley valves/ HS rockers
patriot gold springs
232/234 .595/.598 112 LSA "torquer V2"
LS6 ported oil pump
ls6 intake & lid
TSP true duals dumped
pacesetter LT's
UD pulleys
moser 9 inch has 4.11's in if i swap to the auto 3.73's for sure.
UMI double adj. LCA's
UMI double adj. PHB
HAL QA1 shocks 300lb front springs stock rear
sorry for the novel but this would be a big ordeal and dont' want to screw it up...
Chad
01-07-2008, 01:29 AM
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By looking at your mods and what you consider streetable(I daily drive a similar setup to yours) I'd say Yank PT4400 if your continue to stay NA and the PT4000/PYE3600-3800 on the spray/boost. Both will be max effort converters and have the potential to 60" in the 1.5X range or better....
Your going to want to ditch the Nittos for MT ET street radials WAY better traction
Your going to want to ditch the Nittos for MT ET street radials WAY better traction
01-07-2008, 01:58 AM
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By looking at your mods and what you consider streetable(I daily drive a similar setup to yours) I'd say Yank PT4400 if your continue to stay NA and the PT4000/PYE3600-3800 on the spray/boost. Both will be max effort converters and have the potential to 60" in the 1.5X range or better....
Your going to want to ditch the Nittos for MT ET street radials WAY better traction
Your going to want to ditch the Nittos for MT ET street radials WAY better traction
Nitto's are for the street...lol. D/R's for the track.
reason i said the 4000 is thats whats possibly included w/ a tranny deal im setting up.
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01-07-2008, 02:16 AM
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You can have plenty of fun with the ss4000, there are plenty of people that have 60"d exceptionally well with that converter, but by describing what you wanted out of a converter I made some suggestions for top of the line max performance converters. The PT is the top of the line converter Yank makes...
The PYE series is specificly for nitrous/boosted applications and will not flash as high as you will want behind a NA application. These are built for optimum performance on N20/Boosted applications
The PYE series is specificly for nitrous/boosted applications and will not flash as high as you will want behind a NA application. These are built for optimum performance on N20/Boosted applications
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The Super Yank 4000 converter is a step up in performance for vehicles modified with ported cylinder heads and long duration camshafts. PHOTO
The 9" Pro Thruster 4000 converter is for racers looking for maximum launch off the starting line. With over a 4000 stall and a 2.70 stall torque ratio, the 9" Thruster Pro is recommended only for enthusiasts running ET Streets or Slicks. Drag Radials have no hope of hooking up with this converter...it hits that hard! Despite its high STR, the converter maintains very good efficiency. It will hold 5000+ rpms on upshifts, ensuring high hp to the rear wheels throughout the entire 1/4 mile run. This is a serious performance converter for those willing to trade some drivability for true high performance. PHOTO
The Ultra Yank utilizes an industry-exclusive 225mm billet housing, custom clutch assembly, extremely low weight and very high efficiency. Stall speeds from 4200 and up. See us to custom tailor for your specific needs. A must for the maximum effort racer or extreme street racer. PHOTO
For Nitrous and Blown applications, the Pro Yank 3600 Extreme takes the breakthrough design of the Super Yank and modifies the stall characteristics and shift extension to perfectly match the unique torque curve when using a "power adder". The Pro Yank 3600 Extreme incorporates our exclusive Posi Lock-Up kevlar clutches and 6 bolt mounting lugs to make the most of each nitrous run. Off the bottle, the Pro Yank 3600 Extreme provides similar gains to the Super Yank 3500, giving a solid performance increase on the street while maintaining outstanding drivability
Taken directly from Yanks site
http://www.converter.cc/faq/faq_main.htm
The 9" Pro Thruster 4000 converter is for racers looking for maximum launch off the starting line. With over a 4000 stall and a 2.70 stall torque ratio, the 9" Thruster Pro is recommended only for enthusiasts running ET Streets or Slicks. Drag Radials have no hope of hooking up with this converter...it hits that hard! Despite its high STR, the converter maintains very good efficiency. It will hold 5000+ rpms on upshifts, ensuring high hp to the rear wheels throughout the entire 1/4 mile run. This is a serious performance converter for those willing to trade some drivability for true high performance. PHOTO
The Ultra Yank utilizes an industry-exclusive 225mm billet housing, custom clutch assembly, extremely low weight and very high efficiency. Stall speeds from 4200 and up. See us to custom tailor for your specific needs. A must for the maximum effort racer or extreme street racer. PHOTO
For Nitrous and Blown applications, the Pro Yank 3600 Extreme takes the breakthrough design of the Super Yank and modifies the stall characteristics and shift extension to perfectly match the unique torque curve when using a "power adder". The Pro Yank 3600 Extreme incorporates our exclusive Posi Lock-Up kevlar clutches and 6 bolt mounting lugs to make the most of each nitrous run. Off the bottle, the Pro Yank 3600 Extreme provides similar gains to the Super Yank 3500, giving a solid performance increase on the street while maintaining outstanding drivability
Taken directly from Yanks site
http://www.converter.cc/faq/faq_main.htm
01-07-2008, 02:19 AM
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You can have plenty of fun with the ss4000, there are plenty of people that have 60"d exceptionally well with that converter, but by describing what you wanted out of a converter I made some suggestions for top of the line max performance converters. The PT is the top of the line converter Yank makes...
The PYE series is specificly for nitrous/boosted applications and will not flash as high as you will want behind a NA application. These are built for optimum performance on N20/Boosted applications
The PYE series is specificly for nitrous/boosted applications and will not flash as high as you will want behind a NA application. These are built for optimum performance on N20/Boosted applications
so driving the ss4000 on the street what kind of rpm's would it start engaging at? what i mean is if im at a light and just driving normally...1500ish? higher?
Chad
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Yea 1500 sounds about right, I drove a buddy of mines PT4400 and it took a little more that that to get moving maybe 1500-1700 but man that thing when you hit the gas went right up to 5 grand and pulkled like a ****. My 3600 Vig was very similar but it was a tad more tame on the streets and is considered roughly equal to a ss4000
That ss4000 will serve you fine on the street and the track
That ss4000 will serve you fine on the street and the track
01-07-2008, 11:31 AM
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I have the SS4000 in my S-10 behind a Heads Cam 370. It takes about 1700rpm to begin and maintain movement. I also have 3.73 gears. I think its a street friendly converter.
I have had:
TT3000
SS3600
SS4000
You can adjust the lockup points in the tune, mine currently locks at 40MPH
Make sure you have a big cooler and hang the F&*k on because its a pretty violent converter.
Truck 60 foots 1.50's with the SS4000.
I have had:
TT3000
SS3600
SS4000
You can adjust the lockup points in the tune, mine currently locks at 40MPH
Make sure you have a big cooler and hang the F&*k on because its a pretty violent converter.
Truck 60 foots 1.50's with the SS4000.
01-07-2008, 01:04 PM
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I have the SS4000 in my S-10 behind a Heads Cam 370. It takes about 1700rpm to begin and maintain movement. I also have 3.73 gears. I think its a street friendly converter.
I have had:
TT3000
SS3600
SS4000
You can adjust the lockup points in the tune, mine currently locks at 40MPH
Make sure you have a big cooler and hang the F&*k on because its a pretty violent converter.
Truck 60 foots 1.50's with the SS4000.
I have had:
TT3000
SS3600
SS4000
You can adjust the lockup points in the tune, mine currently locks at 40MPH
Make sure you have a big cooler and hang the F&*k on because its a pretty violent converter.
Truck 60 foots 1.50's with the SS4000.
any clue on what I could do in the 1/4 w/ the 4l60E and my mods? im thinking bottom 11's wouldn't be out of the question.
Chad
01-07-2008, 08:21 PM
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My last converter was the SS4000 and I liked it, but it never felt that good from highway pulls. Basically left a lot to be desired. I swapped to a PT4400 and I've found the last converter I'll ever buy. It is awesome in every way. I run it with 3.23's and it is very loose for street driving, but it's not unbearable at all. Makes for a great highway car, pulls like a beast from any speed.
The SS4000 took about 2500 to stay with traffic or slightly pull ahead from a stoplight. It would move at 1500 RPM's, but slowly. It is a nice, tight verter for city driving. Shift extension was ~4900 shifting at 6000. The PT4400 takes 3000-3500 to accelerate at the same rate the SS4000 did in traffic. Shift extension is ~5800 shifting at 6500. It pulls much much harder from a highway roll than the SS4000 did. On cooler days, 50 MPH punches=no traction.
I will be getting 3.90's or 4.10's for it in the spring. I think 3.73's would work well with the SS4000 though. It is a great converter, I just wanted max effort. Check out my vidoe in sig. I know it's got more in it....the run in the video was 3/4's tank of gas and full weight with MT ET STreets.
The SS4000 took about 2500 to stay with traffic or slightly pull ahead from a stoplight. It would move at 1500 RPM's, but slowly. It is a nice, tight verter for city driving. Shift extension was ~4900 shifting at 6000. The PT4400 takes 3000-3500 to accelerate at the same rate the SS4000 did in traffic. Shift extension is ~5800 shifting at 6500. It pulls much much harder from a highway roll than the SS4000 did. On cooler days, 50 MPH punches=no traction.
I will be getting 3.90's or 4.10's for it in the spring. I think 3.73's would work well with the SS4000 though. It is a great converter, I just wanted max effort. Check out my vidoe in sig. I know it's got more in it....the run in the video was 3/4's tank of gas and full weight with MT ET STreets.
01-07-2008, 08:47 PM
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My last converter was the SS4000 and I liked it, but it never felt that good from highway pulls. Basically left a lot to be desired. I swapped to a PT4400 and I've found the last converter I'll ever buy. It is awesome in every way. I run it with 3.23's and it is very loose for street driving, but it's not unbearable at all. Makes for a great highway car, pulls like a beast from any speed.
The SS4000 took about 2500 to stay with traffic or slightly pull ahead from a stoplight. It would move at 1500 RPM's, but slowly. It is a nice, tight verter for city driving. Shift extension was ~4900 shifting at 6000. The PT4400 takes 3000-3500 to accelerate at the same rate the SS4000 did in traffic. Shift extension is ~5800 shifting at 6500. It pulls much much harder from a highway roll than the SS4000 did. On cooler days, 50 MPH punches=no traction.
I will be getting 3.90's or 4.10's for it in the spring. I think 3.73's would work well with the SS4000 though. It is a great converter, I just wanted max effort. Check out my vidoe in sig. I know it's got more in it....the run in the video was 3/4's tank of gas and full weight with MT ET STreets.
The SS4000 took about 2500 to stay with traffic or slightly pull ahead from a stoplight. It would move at 1500 RPM's, but slowly. It is a nice, tight verter for city driving. Shift extension was ~4900 shifting at 6000. The PT4400 takes 3000-3500 to accelerate at the same rate the SS4000 did in traffic. Shift extension is ~5800 shifting at 6500. It pulls much much harder from a highway roll than the SS4000 did. On cooler days, 50 MPH punches=no traction.
I will be getting 3.90's or 4.10's for it in the spring. I think 3.73's would work well with the SS4000 though. It is a great converter, I just wanted max effort. Check out my vidoe in sig. I know it's got more in it....the run in the video was 3/4's tank of gas and full weight with MT ET STreets.
I plan on spraying...so no PT for me.
Chad
01-07-2008, 10:57 PM
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With spray then SS4000 is perfect for you! PT's rock, but yes, they do limit you on power adders. Had I kept my SS4000, spray would have been next. Overall, I'm still thrilled that I upgraded to the PT. And yes, 3.73's should tighten the converter up even more, although it is fairly tight out of the box, especially for a 4000 stall speed. I'm not sure how gears will affect the shift extension though.