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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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i guess personally i don't know how great those tires are. i had some small 245/55/16 tires on my car before i got my drag radials. all i had was a lid, full exhaust, and 2.73s at that.....i can roast the tires all day long with my A4. So I can't really say what's going to happen with your tires, cuz I've never had them. You might want to find someone who does have them, and being a 19" rim, well that means you will have no flex in the tire which again means less traction. Maybe if you did some suspension work too you could get traction with the stock tires. I really don't know about that. Also depends how wide them tires are, but I really doubt anyone on something other than drag radials or slicks will get traction with a stall. Now the cam? I'm really not sure, cuz depending on the cam it won't make really good power till about 3-4k...so maybe you won't spin till you shift into 2nd or the top of first? Not sure...good luck
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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well my rear rims are 19'' but the rear tires are 285 wide just like a stock c6 corvett, does anyone know if i can get a stall more in the range of 2800 or 3000 on 3.23 with that wide rear tire, if i can get traction in 1st gear. if not then i just won't get a stall
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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With any stall your going to roast them. Since you have 19's it will be even worse. I spin up to 35 mph on 17" KDW's with good tread. Thats with stock stall and no cam, now im going with a 4k stall and tr230, traction will be non-exsistent. Either get drag radials or learn to pedal.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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get drag radials and lower control arms with a 3,600 vig..
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Why bother modding you car if your worried about spinning the tires? Its going probably going to run/feel like junk with a stock stall anyway. It wont feel much faster with a cam because you wont be in the cams power range right awhile.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir02TA77
Why bother modding you car if your worried about spinning the tires? Its going probably going to run/feel like junk with a stock stall anyway. It wont feel much faster with a cam because you wont be in the cams power range right awhile.
X2...you can't have your cake and eat it too. A cammed A4 car will be a dog off the line w/o a stall, and you are afraid of spinning the tires. I don't really know what to tell you.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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i know i will spin all im sayin is that im not willing to part with these rims, so does anyone know what would be a stall and str that would help my car, without driving sideways down the road?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
i know i will spin all im sayin is that im not willing to part with these rims, so does anyone know what would be a stall and str that would help my car, without driving sideways down the road?
You could always get a stall with a lower STR. The lower the STR the less amount of torque it will put out from a start and I think certain yank converters are specifically made so they hook up easier from a stop. Don't quote me on that

Find out who the sponsor of Yank is on here and give them a call or shoot them a pm or email.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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dude.... dont worry so much! get the stall... see how it feels! i garentee u will be like "why the hell did i ever even make this thread!" haha ur gonna love it... and if u dont u can always build up ur suspension and buy some good tires to tame her.... but who dosent love the feeling of roasting the tires from a 40 mph roll? I KNO I DO!
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
im not gonna take off the rims or tires, if i stay with 3.23 and go with a 3000 stall will it make it easier to get traction. I understand what you guys are saying about not mashing on it but by doing that is there even a point of getting a stall in my case? thanx for all opinions
1) Get the stall
2) Learn that the throtlle is not an on/off switch
3) A lower STR does make it easier to launch a small stall like a 3000.
4) You may find this hard to believe, but a 4000 stall will be even easier to launch than a 3000. The additional slip makes it easier to roll into the throttle. A YTP 4000 and 3.23s is just killer on the street. Loose as hell, but killer.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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man up, get a huge stall 4000+, get some BFG DRs and call it a day.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
im not gonna take off the rims or tires, if i stay with 3.23 and go with a 3000 stall will it make it easier to get traction. I understand what you guys are saying about not mashing on it but by doing that is there even a point of getting a stall in my case? thanx for all opinions
I run 12.4x's all the time at the track on my **** street tires (245/50ZR16) with my 3600 vigilante. But I can drive if I do say so myself. If I get in it a hair too fast, I can burn 'em in second damn-near halfway down the track.

On the street (where it is more slippery) I can drive normal and even fast but It won't launch at anything even close to heavy throttle. I love this thing.

When I finally get some wheels and tires, it's gonna ride.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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ok im gonna call yank and see if they have something for me, still not sure though, i know low str better traction but what stall with the low str a 3k or 4k range,? i guess i should stay on my 3.23s. Would a tr224 cam be to big or should i get a smaller cam? sorry for all questions its just im getting this all done soon and i want to make sure i get the right stuff. thanx for all the help you guys are awsome
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
well my rear rims are 19'' but the rear tires are 285 wide just like a stock c6 corvett, does anyone know if i can get a stall more in the range of 2800 or 3000 on 3.23 with that wide rear tire, if i can get traction in 1st gear. if not then i just won't get a stall
Your tires are for cornering and braking, not drag launches. But that doesn't mean you can't go fast on them. You just can't shock them hard, they break loose because of the stiff short sidewall.

If you're willing to get some LCA's, relocates, and pull the front swaybar it'll really help.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
ok im gonna call yank and see if they have something for me, still not sure though, i know low str better traction but what stall with the low str a 3k or 4k range,? i guess i should stay on my 3.23s. Would a tr224 cam be to big or should i get a smaller cam? sorry for all questions its just im getting this all done soon and i want to make sure i get the right stuff. thanx for all the help you guys are awsome

What do you want from the car?
A drag racer? Interstate burner? SCCA track car? quick daily driver?
What compromises are you willing and unwilling to make?
We know you won't loose the tires and wheels, what else?

If you don't want drag tires, you won't like or need anything other than 3:23's.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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i just want to make my car as quick of a daily driver a possible without takin the rims or tires off. So for the suspension LSA,relocates, pull front swaybar? anything else?what size cam should i look for (tr224) ok ?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
i just want to make my car as quick of a daily driver a possible without takin the rims or tires off. So for the suspension LSA,relocates, pull front swaybar? anything else?what size cam should i look for (tr224) ok ?
The cam needs to be part of a package. Needs to fit your desired useable powerband. the 224 should have at least a 3000 rpm converter and headers. Do you like a smooth idle, good low-end torque, and easy driving in the rain?
Or do you want a high winding, rough idling, slightly-soggy low-end screamer that needs things like a high stall converter and gears?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by troopercar
The cam needs to be part of a package. Needs to fit your desired useable powerband. the 224 should have at least a 3000 rpm converter and headers. Do you like a smooth idle, good low-end torque, and easy driving in the rain?
Or do you want a high winding, rough idling, slightly-soggy low-end screamer that needs things like a high stall converter and gears?
Or a little of both?

The 224 is a very friendly cam, you can make decent numbers and perform at the track decent and apparently feels stock. You can do a search on this using the search function and see how others like it. They say not to go lower than a 3500 stall cuz you regret it later. So I got myself an SS3600 from Yank. I'd suggest you do the same. With a lower STR of course since it'll be easier on the launch.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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well i never drive in rain or snow cus i have a second car for that so thats not an issue with me, i don't want a high winding cam and dont mind a lil rough idle nothing crazy though, thats why i was lookin at the tr224 112 lsa, can i get the ss3600 on like a 1.8 str? and look into lower control arms,relocation bracket, and swaybar any, any other susp mods?

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mywhite02taws6
well i never drive in rain or snow cus i have a second car for that so thats not an issue with me, i don't want a high winding cam and dont mind a lil rough idle nothing crazy though, thats why i was lookin at the tr224 112 lsa, so maybe a 3200k stall on a 1.8 str sound right, and look into lower control arms,relocation bracket, and swaybar any, any other susp mods?
You might want to start posting in the suspension area. There are gurus there that can definitely help you more and point you in the right direction. The search button helps me a lot too. Search for 224/224 cam or maybe the 228R is for you as well!....You can post up in the III gen engine area and ask cam questions and you'll get more help that way
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