Got my car back after ss3600 install. OMG
Well i got the gears before the stall...so thats why, and about mileage, its not my DD, so its not really a concern for me
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From: Simpsonville, SC
same with mive, it is not a daily driver and insted of puting gears in the weak *** 10 bolt i will just buy a 12- bolt and sell my rear while its still good. All in all i am very happy with the stall even with the shitty 2.73's and can't wait to get the headers on and the tune done to see what it is going to do at the track. Any guesss from anyone??
Last edited by 99T/AMAN; Apr 13, 2008 at 10:27 PM. Reason: forgot stuff
Absolutely incorrect. A few years back I had a '98 Formula that had a smaller cam than what you are running (T1) with the restrictive stock '98 manifolds, stock 3.23 gears, and a Vig 2800 and bolt-ons. The vig 2800 flashed to about 3100 and the car ran a best of 11.98 @ 113 MPH with a 1.64 short time. And that was before LS1 edit was out for '98s so that was on an Ed Wright mail order tune.
So exactly what 'potential' did I leave? Was it the .01 difference in our short times or the .05 difference in 1/4 mile ET? Keep in mind you are running more cam, you have headers which at that time I did not, and your Yank 4400 vs my Vig 2800.
While I do agree on a well prepped track the Yank 4k+ convertors will out perform a smaller vig, it certainly is not the night and day difference you make it out to be. I later ran a custom Yank 4200 thruster along with Macs and the car went 11.83 @ 115+ with actually a worse 60 ft. I'm sure it would have ETed a bit better if I could have gotten that combo to work but the Yank hit the tires too hard for a stockish suspension and my 26 x 11.5 x 16 ET streets. To get the full potential out of the Yank 4k+ thruster convertors one would definately have to work on the suspension a bit. Also, on street tires the car was pointless. Many will enjoy the greater drivability of the smaller convertors as well.
The biggest advantage the larger Yank has is from a roll. At 40 MPH with the Vig 2800 that car was a turd. The Yank hit MUCH harder and usually broke the tires loose wildly. The Yanks sure 'felt' faster but the track said otherwise. Had I been able to get the full potential out of the Yank and cut low 1.5s I'm sure the car would have gone 11.6s @ 116 MPH. But that never happened as shoddy track prep is very unforgiving to 4k+ stalls.
So exactly what 'potential' did I leave? Was it the .01 difference in our short times or the .05 difference in 1/4 mile ET? Keep in mind you are running more cam, you have headers which at that time I did not, and your Yank 4400 vs my Vig 2800.
While I do agree on a well prepped track the Yank 4k+ convertors will out perform a smaller vig, it certainly is not the night and day difference you make it out to be. I later ran a custom Yank 4200 thruster along with Macs and the car went 11.83 @ 115+ with actually a worse 60 ft. I'm sure it would have ETed a bit better if I could have gotten that combo to work but the Yank hit the tires too hard for a stockish suspension and my 26 x 11.5 x 16 ET streets. To get the full potential out of the Yank 4k+ thruster convertors one would definately have to work on the suspension a bit. Also, on street tires the car was pointless. Many will enjoy the greater drivability of the smaller convertors as well.
The biggest advantage the larger Yank has is from a roll. At 40 MPH with the Vig 2800 that car was a turd. The Yank hit MUCH harder and usually broke the tires loose wildly. The Yanks sure 'felt' faster but the track said otherwise. Had I been able to get the full potential out of the Yank and cut low 1.5s I'm sure the car would have gone 11.6s @ 116 MPH. But that never happened as shoddy track prep is very unforgiving to 4k+ stalls.
You asked what potential you left with the smaller converter? You answered your own question in your last paragraph......low 1.5's and 11.60's with better track prep. One of my biggest reasons for upgrading to the PT4400 was because so many members told me they gained so much over their smaller converters. Also, the only night and day difference I've ever talked about is the difference between my SS4000 and my PT4400. The difference between those two is exactly as I've made it out to be. I've never said there was a night and day difference between a small Vig and a big Yank...because I wouldn't have any idea if there is.
Higher stalling converters will have too much shift extension for FI cars. I've also heard that they will blow through the converter. There's a lot more power and torque to account for with FI.
Last edited by 99Hawk262; Apr 15, 2008 at 09:51 PM.
