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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Default A4's...3200 or 3600 ?

O.k. guys. Need help.

Here are my current mods in my 2006 A4 LS2 GTO:

hardcore intake
kook's headers
160 thermo
tune

353 h.p.
362 tq.

ran a best of 12.77 at 109 with a 1.92 60' (ideal conditions)

ready to go in the car are the following

236/238 .602 .605 on 112 lsa

patriot springs

comp cams pushrods

underdrive pulley

I want to know what converter you guys think I should go with

3200 or 3600?

Yank or Vigilante?

my car is not a daily driver - weekends and occasionally week nights - 5-10 times at the strip in spring/summer/fall

I had been planning on going with a 3200 but talked to Yank yesterday and they thought I should go with a 3600

any thoughts????

Thanks

Brian
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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for that size cam, i would do a 3600. im running a vig 3200 stall which is really like a 34-3500 stall. but my car will never see the track at all. you cant go wrong with a vig or yank for sure!!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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3200 is too small. I will make a prediction here. I predict you'll go with a 3600 because everyone is going to pick that size between the two choices. Then six months from now you'll be saying "Man I wish I had gone with a 4000".

Do some research and maybe even PM a few guys running a yank SS4000. That's the converter you really want. You just don't know it yet.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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hes right i have the ss3600 and although i love it i wish it had a little more oomph 4000 and you wont be mistaken. if your gonna run juice go for the 36 though
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bigpapi211
hes right i have the ss3600 and although i love it i wish it had a little more oomph 4000 and you wont be mistaken. if your gonna run juice go for the 36 though
The SS4000 is a sprayable converter. And with the cam he'll have he could spray a 200 shot on the ss4000 if he wanted to.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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for that cam I would do a MINIMUM of a vig 3600 or a Yank PT4000/4400. If N20 is in your near future SS4000 all the way
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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They can be reflashed also so what ever you get you can go more later I got the Vig 3200 I'd like to try the 3600 to see and then maby 4000 later haha.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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i just put in the yank ss3600 and love it, i would say with the mods you have that would be the way to go.
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With that cam I would be considering 3600 or 4000+ converters.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Honestly, drive someones car that is stalled.

Not everyone likes 4K stalls.

I had a 3500 and went to a 3200 because a majority of my driving was intercity. For the track the 3200 worked just fine, hell of a lot better than the stock stall.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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I have a NIB Yank SS 3600 in the classifieds if your interested.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast GTO
Honestly, drive someones car that is stalled.

Not everyone likes 4K stalls.

I had a 3500 and went to a 3200 because a majority of my driving was intercity. For the track the 3200 worked just fine, hell of a lot better than the stock stall.

exactly!!! i know alot of guys say go with 4k stall and bigger... but my car is all street. when i mean all street its a daily driver, and never will see the track, and im not trying to set records or anything. the vig 3200 is a proven and efficient verter. i honestly wanted a verter that would feel like stock driving around.. ive heard of some guys say driving a huge stall sometimes feels like its driving through mud..but a vig 3200 is really comparable to a yank 3600!!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
exactly!!! i know alot of guys say go with 4k stall and bigger... but my car is all street. when i mean all street its a daily driver, and never will see the track, and im not trying to set records or anything. the vig 3200 is a proven and efficient verter. i honestly wanted a verter that would feel like stock driving around.. ive heard of some guys say driving a huge stall sometimes feels like its driving through mud..but a vig 3200 is really comparable to a yank 3600!!
There is a difference between a stock cubed LS1 with stock internals and a 402 LS2 with a 23x/23x camshaft. He won't make any decent power below 4000 rpm's. I guarantee if he gets a 3600 stall for "his setup" it'll be a matter of a few months before he wants more stall. Even for the street.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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I dd a 4k stall. Its tolerable but I wouldnt want to go bigger or to a looser series for a dd. Gas prices are way to high for that
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
There is a difference between a stock cubed LS1 with stock internals and a 402 LS2 with a 23x/23x camshaft. He won't make any decent power below 4000 rpm's. I guarantee if he gets a 3600 stall for "his setup" it'll be a matter of a few months before he wants more stall. Even for the street.
Relative to what?

He still makes more power at lower RPM than his stocker...

For someone wanting max performance then getting a stall to match your peak TQ is the way to go, otherwise get what you want to drive and will be comfortable with.

Sacrificing the best 'performance' for driveability is what putting a good DD together is all about....you just need to find the sweet spot where you are not sacrificing too much on either side.

Also, be aware that with more cubes your TC will stall higher than advertised because of the massive torque.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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ss4000 here and love it!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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SS4000 Go big or go home lol.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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I can make it easier than that!! Call PTC, tell them what you have and they can build you a converter. Thats what I did and I love it!!

http://www.ptcrace.com/
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast GTO
Relative to what?

He still makes more power at lower RPM than his stocker....
And he'll still make way more at 5000+ then he will below 4000. When you see how much under your powerband you are with both stall size and shift extension it doesn't take long to want more. And a 3600 stall is nothing for a stock LS1. Behind a cammed LS2 it'll seem pretty small.


Originally Posted by Fast GTO
Sacrificing the best 'performance' for driveability is what putting a good DD together is all about....you just need to find the sweet spot where you are not sacrificing too much on either side.
Which IMO is exactly what the SS4000 will do.

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Also, be aware that with more cubes your TC will stall higher than advertised because of the massive torque.
True. But behind an NA 402 it'll be minimal.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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like i said, for his setup atleast a 3600 for that size of a cam. i went with a 3200 because i actually wanted something the closest to drive like stock as if i didnt have a verter. and not something that will somewhat be tolerable. and the vig 3200 and yank ss 3600 are the more popular street verters.
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