3000 stall with shift kit
3000 stall with shift kit I have a 3000 stall on its way that i was planning on intstaling myself. I read that it is good to do a shift kit as well but i just watched the transgo install video and it looks out of my ability. I have a hypertech, would i be able to get similar results with just raising the tranny presure.
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No, the Transgo kit changes things mechanically that raising line pressure can't do. One of the most important is the revised torque converter clutch valve. It can really prolong your clutch life and help prevent losing your tranny in case of a failure.
I recommend finding somebody competent to install it and paying to have it done while the tranny is out. It is well worth it for the longevity of your tranny.
I recommend finding somebody competent to install it and paying to have it done while the tranny is out. It is well worth it for the longevity of your tranny.
I've got a friend with a shop that was going to be helping me with the converter. He works mainly on engines, but he said he thinks he could do the shift kit too. Should we try to do this ourself or is the risk of screwing something up to great.
never did a shift kit but i just got done installing a new trans by myself for the very first time ever. a lot of work but you can definitaly do it if your mechanically inclined and if you have a good set of tools
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I agree. My Transgo was one of the best mods I did to my car. However, I found someone who had done a lot of them, and knew the little tricks and twists that made it even better. Shifts like stock under partial throttle, and hits like a ***** when I nail it. Best of both worlds.
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I did the same and completely agree. I wish I could hand over the keys to my car for a spin around the block to guys who are questioning the efficacy of the Transgo. It would be end of discussion.
Last edited by RevGTO; Jul 18, 2008 at 08:38 AM.
I dont know if you guys are suggesting this cause it is harder on the tranny to run with out one or if it makes the car feel better. The way I fugure is that im running on borrowed time with my tranny and 10 bolt seeing as how i want some where in the 400-450 horse power range when im done with my build on this car. So should i pay to have this installed or just wait for this tranny to break and get something better. This tranny has 106,xxx miles on it already (don't know if it has been rebuilt).
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Guys look, the simple fact is the original unit was designed to handle well under 400 hp / tq. It's a fact. If you are trying to get away with more power to the unit without a high quality / highly advanced rebuild you are kidding yourselves. It's a fact. It always has been, always will be.
It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
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It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
g
Guys look, the simple fact is the original unit was designed to handle well under 400 hp / tq. It's a fact. If you are trying to get away with more power to the unit without a high quality / highly advanced rebuild you are kidding yourselves. It's a fact. It always has been, always will be.
It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
g
It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
g
I'll give you a call tomorrow.
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i totally agree that a shift kit is the best way to go, period. but at 100k they wouldnt take my tranny apart to fully install the shift kit unless i paid for a rebuild then they said it would be good to 400 hp. i wasnt ready to drop the coin on a fully built unit so i had the computer work done instead and it drives great so far....
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Guys look, the simple fact is the original unit was designed to handle well under 400 hp / tq. It's a fact. If you are trying to get away with more power to the unit without a high quality / highly advanced rebuild you are kidding yourselves. It's a fact. It always has been, always will be.
It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
g
It is a matter of expectations. If you expect to have more power going into the unit than it was engineered for you are on borrowed time. If you have a high mileage unit and you do that, then you are on borrowed time. If you expect to build the transmission in a reasonable time frame, then no worries, if you don't... you only have yourself to blame when it grenades.
Seriously... have you ever wondered why there are so many engine vendors here and only a handful of transmission vendors? Think about it. It's an extremely difficult challenge to build these units to a level that they can handle the power they are seeing with today's engines. Not many companies are successful at it... how do I know you ask? I see them every week from other companies. Every week.
So, if you want a nice car, a nice powertrain, a nice hot rod... don't go to someone who "thinks" they know what they are doing.
If you have to ask.... the the answer is no. Do not take your high mileage car to a shop who has no idea what the hell they are doing unless you are willing to be their guinea pig for a long time to come.
I see it every week. You go cheap and it will bite you in the *** every time... the 4L60E does not care who you are. It will fail with a half assed effort... how do I know?
Call me and I'll tell you. Good Luck guys.
g
Ace racing transmissions Well I called Ratchthed today and first i want to say thank you for helping me out. This guy really knows what he is talking about and didn't try to sell me anything i don't need. If you have questions i would highly recommend calling him.
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Thanks man... I'm glad you called. If nothing else you have a better understanding of what to expect. And I think you're on the correct path!
Put the converter in, have fun, save some $$$ and when it let's go.. go big!
It was good talking to you this afternoon.
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Put the converter in, have fun, save some $$$ and when it let's go.. go big!
It was good talking to you this afternoon.
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Converter is installed Well i did the converter last night and it feels awsome. When i had the trans out i saw something interesting. It has a sticker on it saying remanufactred by GM. so maybe there is hope for this tranny for longer than i thought.