ilovechevy1

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Dude the Army has changed alot over the past 5 years that I have been in. First thing is that they ` DON'T "NEED" soldiers nearly as much as they did when we where at war for 10 years with Iraq and Afganistan. Iraq is over, and Afganistan is is drawing down very very fast. The Army is left with a **** ton of hurt, PTSDed out, and all around ALOT of soldiers in general.They are kicking ppl out for lil stuff now, and they are getting very very strict on their requirements, and it's just always some bullshit going on that makes no sense. They are OPENLY letting gay's into the military (no more don't ask don't tell). There is a damn good chance you may be roomates with a gay person while staying in the barracks (barracks that don't always have seperate rooms!) and will be training right along side of some strait prancing *** fairies that litter the ground with pixie dust as they walk (not my definition of a soldier!). Hope you like getting up @ anywhere between 4-5 AM and running 6 miles nonstop (not jogging) before the sun is up or the roosters lol. There is ALOT of dumb **** to put up with in the Army. I have 2 kids and a wife, been married for 5 years and I'm 25 years old, I'm a GROWN *** man!!..but the Army WILL treat you like a chid unless you have been in long enough to become a staff SGT (even then the dumb **** persist to follow you). I'm an E-4 Specialist, and my MOS is an 88M (pretty much a heavy truck driver). I enjoy doing my job (the truck driving) ,but the Army makes it stupid such as I have to be in full gear even while driving our trucks around post. Full gear is vest (bullet proof about 45lbs) 5 lb kevlar ACH (helment), gloves, eyepro (safet glasses), knee pads and elbow pads.This is all while still having to wear your uniform under all this, T shirt with long sleeved jacket and pants. This SUCKS if it's in Iraq during 120 degree heat, but it's expected cause it's a hostile place with bombs and bullets everywhere, but is just flat out dumb when you are back home driving your truck on post and it's summertime @ FT.Stewart GA. I could type for hours giving my personal experience in the Army but neither of us have that kinda time on our hands lol. My brother has been in for 17 years and he HATES it as well, he's just finishing up doing his 20 years and then bouncing out. It's just dumb now man, I enjoyed my year in Iraq but once back home in a garrison enviorment, you will hate life..Talk to half the ppl in the Army about how they like it, then make your decision. Alot of us are Zombies and they will stay in nomatter how dumb things get or are, there are alot of great benifits, but to me they are not worth being treated like a child. I am a good soldier, I stay out of trouble, do my job, and it STILL does'nt stop the Army and ppl above you from treating you like **** and like a child. I did'nt get out of high school and go right in. I was out for about 2 years and worked maybe 4 different job and never had I been treated like such a child even when I was a teenager. I'm done with the Army and that's all I got to say about that (Forrest Gump phrase lol)

ilovechevy1

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and no man, I love working on cars in general. Mine, my freinds cars, and even ppl I randomly meet who need help and their car won't start..stuff like that. I get a hard on everytime I turn a wrench (no homo)

Bjorn20

I hate to hijack this thread, but I would hope that after 4 pages of input, the OP got the general idea of the automotive field.

I have talked to a handful of people that are either still in or got out after like 4 years. From what I have gathered, all the ones that hate it just didn't like the job they signed up for; while others don't like the way of life in the military. That is understandable as it's definitely not for everyone and a lot of the mid 20's guys joined at 18 for college money or they didn't know what to do after school. But yes I would have to agree, the military is nothing like what it used to be. Odd that they set the bar so damn high to get in now and yet they are letting in gay's. Doesn't quite make sense to me. Which also tells you how fucked up society has become these days. Hopefully the gay's are too chicken **** to be a grunt and stay the hell away from me.

I was right about the age, I'm going on 24 in spring, but I still consider myself a kid. I honestly look forward to the discipline and being treated like a kid, I would expect nothing less as a lower rank. Same idea as if you were starting from scratch at a new job that you know nothing about. Although, it's going to be weird to take orders from nco's that are my age and younger. Only difference between us is our career path for the last 5 years, to an extent.

I really wish I would have joined years ago to get in the fight while the fighting was still on. Now most of the fighting is over (you would think anyway after 10 years) and everyone wants to join for the simple reason of they can't find a job anywhere else. But there will always be another war, I'm sure of this.

Tan327

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No, you don't. Just wait until you're taking orders from some old *** 18 year-in E5 idiot, who is dumber than a bag of rocks(hence the 18 year-in E5) but can still tell you what to do. There are some great NCO's, but there are plenty that do not deserve it either, I work with them every day.

I hope you know someone on the inside, because they military is NOTHING like what you see on the outside. And no, I do not regret joining. I enjoy my job(when I'm doing MY job, 25B IT Specialist, and not some other pointless BS the Army asks me to do), may make it a career, but I'm not going to sugar coat it and make it sound like something it's not, like the military wants recruits to believe. You'll see.

lsx74camaro

This is my mechanic experience, Ive been working on cars since i was kid. All i wanted to do is have it as a hobby. After high school, i just wanted a job. So i got hired at a local factory ,this was back in 2000. I worked there for 7 years straight nights which sucked. In 2005 my wife and i had our first child,some guys with kids that worked my shift didnt get to see there kids more less till the weekend cause of the shift we worked, So decided i had to do something, also the factory was slowing down and laying off and I was problably gonna be next. I worked with a guy there that was bestfriends with a guy that owned a GM dealership, so we met. A month later there was an opening in the body shop the pay was a little less for the first couple months. Then a mechanic quit. So i got signed on a apprenticeship. For me it worked out perfectly my boss payed for all my GM ASEP schooling plus parking, im from Ontario Canada so the ministry of training payed for gas to drive to and from school plus payed for a sitter, unempolyment payed for me being off work, plus after it was all done i got a $4000 grant for doing an apprenticship. Lets just say win win win. At the same time having a full time job. In the end im a GM asep grad with hounor roll, made hounor roll at the college, Have my inter-provincial licence. Im making $40k a year and the dealership is a block away. I work straight days 8 to 5 no weekends. I dont buy expensive tools, i bought a used box i might have $5k in tools. I some days wish i took another trade but the grass is not always greener on the otherside. All and all im happy, i can work one cars anywere in the world if i want to and im always up to date on all of the new technology which is sorta cool, hate to ramble but thats my story lol.

NBM99SS

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I'm a GM ASEP grad and have been in a GM shop for 9 yrs now. My advice is find another career. These new cars are really hard to work on unless you are fully up on your training. Working on your own stuff is cool and fun, but then when everyone and your brother starts wanting you to work on their stuff and pay you next to nothing or in beer it gets old. And they always say the same thing "well you work on cars for a living" GM warranty time at least doesn't pay ****. I'm happy to make 50+ hours a week. I make journeyman pay (which means I have reached the top of my pay already at a relatively young age) and what I like to think is a pretty decent annual income. Some places you can for sure make more at just depends on the volume in that particular shop. In my shop we all do everything. We don't have specialists or a engine guy or trans guy only. I can go from a piston wring job to a headliner job the next day. Just whatever I get. I'll say 1 thing is for sure its a pretty thankless job and abuses the **** out of your body. The first day I walked thru the door all the techs told me if I was smart I would find another career, I just brushed it off as apprentice hazing. I now fully understand what they were trying to say and I tell any new apprentice the same thing now haha

Zmg00camaross

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^^^ what Dealer you work at? I also think the Tags at the bottom are kinda funny, Explains the life.

ilovechevy1

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well if you truly like working on cars for a a living or for fun, what the hell else is there. If there's a perfect answer I'd love to hear it cause I only got 12 months and I'm out the Army (fk this sht!) I love turning wrenches on my car, my freinds cars, and hell anyones cars in general..just like haveing actual work to do that's challenging.

Zmg00camaross

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I enjoy working on cars,truck, My passion is drag cars if I could find my way into that life thats where I would stay. Just sometimes its annoying because sometimes you just dont get treated like you have a skilled trade and places sure dont want to pay you what your worth.

Blk98Vert

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Wow you army guys are pretty ignorant about them letting gays in. If you all have to pass the same tests to get in why can't they fight along side you? If protecting America is what you stand for as well as fighting for freedom who are you to say someone can't have the same rights as you just because of what they like? Personally I think they should be allowed to do everything that straight people can, including fight in the army.

CO99Z28Vert

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Here is my take on it,
If you are a lazy piece of **** like half the people I have met then do not become a tech.
I have been working professionally as a tech now for 4 years and clear 50k a year averaging $23+ an hour but when working on flag rate you cannot stand around with a thumb up your *** milking every job that comes in. You get them done correctly without any problems and get them out.
If you do not have the experience just go to any Big O, Firestone etc and work General Service until they move you up to a tech which does not take long at all, get the certifications they require and make more money.

Anyways for the money that you can make doing this it is not bad at all BUT like said before it is not for everyone...a lot of stress and anger comes with it but what job doesnt.

ilovechevy1

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QUOTE=Blk98Vert;16021613]Wow you army guys are pretty ignorant about them letting gays in. If you all have to pass the same tests to get in why can't they fight along side you? If protecting America is what you stand for as well as fighting for freedom who are you to say someone can't have the same rights as you just because of what they like? Personally I think they should be allowed to do everything that straight people can, including fight in the army.[/QUOTE]

^^^^^^^

Blk98Vert

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Way to represent your country there. I've personally worked with people who I had no idea were gay until after they moved on to other lines of work and told me. My old coworker was one of the best techs I had ever been around and he left because a tech in the shop found out he might be gay and he couldn't take the persecution from.him anymore. He did as good of a job as I did. So why can they not do what we do? It was ok to have them in while they hide it but now that they don't have to hide it to get in its a problem?

ilovechevy1

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Ok so you had one of the **** work with you that DID'NT FLAUNT IT!. What I have a huge problem with (as well as ppl who support **** such as yourself) is the gay guy's that flaunt openly and prance when they walk, act like females and wear makeup and **** like that. You know, the ones who like rainbows and pony's , and faries and such?.Is THAT the kinda soldiers you want to see representing your kick *** U.S Army or Devil Dog Marines? PPl should be able to look at a soldier in uniform and see a professional *** kicker in every way, shape, and form! First off you are'nt in the military serving our country so DON'T patronize me saying things like "Way to represent your country there". Did you go to Iraq for 12 MONTHS strait driving up-armored semi trucks down bomb/I.E.D infested roads and getting shot at?. You lost all credibility with me when you mentioned the fact a GAY guy is just as good as working on cars as you are ( you failed at life at some point) LOL. Let me ask you this since you support ******* so much. Is it fair to me to have to share bathrooms and showers with gay guys googling my ***? Or is it fair to the non gay soldiers to be forced to be roomates in a barracks room that does'nt have walls up? I bet you would LOOOOVE to be in there and watch your gay roomate bring in his boyfreind and **** **** him right in front of you? When it's a girl over there on your roomates bed, then 99% perecent of real men (not you) would love to watch, so that's a different story. It's ppl like you who are bringing this country down!. Your probly one of the ppl who also support the taking away of the pledge of allegiance, and removal of "In God we trust", and the legalazation of same sex marriage. America is falling from Gods grace because of things like this and ppl like you. BTW, I have a gay half brother and I have NOTHING to do with him, but I'm sure you would like him. I also have a half brother who has been in the Army for 16 years and he HATES **** and ppl who support them. He's been deployed 6 times to Iraq, Afganistan, and other places. I'm sure you would like to patronize him as well

ilovechevy1

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However I would like to point out that if they can keep it to themselves and NOT act like a fairy prancing around all over the place in a Military uniform. Then that's a lil more acceptable. I personally hate all the ****, Hippies, and Ricers. They are all in the same boat.

Blk98Vert

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Ok there's what I was going for. There is a difference between a gay guy and a ***, just like a Honda driver and a ricer. I know several Honda guys that build their cars to run at the track that only have matte paint and stock wheels and some suspension work. They have real exhaust not fart cans. And real mods not a DIY Pep boys intake. I do not support ****, the flamboyant kind like you are explaining. I never have and never will. People are free to believe what they want but **** like that needs to be kept to yourself. What I meant was that most out there that I have dealt with you would never know unless they told you. And what is so hard to believe about my.coworker being an equal worker to me? He was 10 years older than me and we were both doing the same work. I completely agree that they don't need to flaunt it in the same way I believe that someone can follow whatever religion they want, just don't force it on me. And I don't support the removal of the pledge of alliegance or removal of in god we trust. I do however support same sex marriage simply based on the fact that they go to work and pay taxes so why can't they be married? Again I don't think they should shove it in everyone's face. So I'm saying what you are.saying, if they keep it to themselves and don't throw it out there, they are fine by me

ilovechevy1

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The sad thing is tho man, ALOT of the gay's love to flaunt it and push ppl's buttons with it. There is NO place for those type of ppl in the military ,yet if we let one in then we have to let them ALL regardless of if they are faries who sprinkle glitter everywhere. I say there should be NONE in our military that way it's fair to all of them. Americas military should be feared plain and simple. Keep it to themselves so real soldiers like myself should'nt be forced to uncomfortable around them. They could all drop dead right now (even my gay half brother) and I could give 2 *****. Anyone who likes the opposite sex has issues plain and simple, should not be supported in any way or form. It's like Mexicans, if we let one in...then we have to let them all in or it's unfair to the rest.

Blk98Vert

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I can agree with that. It's a touchy subject

Bjorn20

Amen to that. It's just sickening that the amount of skills, tools and certifications required to just get by financially in this trade. In my experience, chain shop employers don't really give a **** if you are unhappy with your pay. They can easily find someone else that will make them money for next to nothing in return.

ilovechevy1: lol... tell us how you really feel.

JeremyKrauss

I like members of the opposite sex. You like members of the same sex? Apparently the military is better represented by homophobes and racists than professional and effective soldiers, regardless of their orientation or ethnicity.

I'm working with the mechanic here in Arizona who's been fixing my Camaro...spent a lot of time (and money) fixing this car, and learned a lot about it. So, he's going to start teaching me, and I'm investing some of my deployment money in starting an actual business