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Old 08-24-2010, 12:24 PM
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2011 Dodge Charger Pursuit



The all-new Dodge Charger Pursuit is the only police vehicle to supply the critical Police Equipment Interface Module as standard equipment as well as a new 3.6-liter V6 PentastarTM engine, redesigned interior and exterior and real-wheel drive with outstanding safety and security features.

Highlights

•Engine options include:
◦All-new 3.6L Pentastar V6 with Variable Valve Timing (VVT) features E85 Flex Fuel capability — Standard
◦Legendary 5.7L HEMI V8 with MDS and VVT — Available
•Column-mounted 5-speed automatic with overdrive and AutoStick®
•Rear-wheel drive with heavy-duty performance front and rear suspensions with load leveling and rear stabilizer bar
•4-wheel disc heavy-duty brakes with Brake Assist
•18-inch steel wheels with P225/60R18 performance tires
•220-amp high-output alternator with surge-protection diode
•Severe-duty engine cooling system with external coolers for engine oil, transmission fluid and power steering fluid

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It doesn't look bad, but they are still just SOO heavy.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It doesn't look bad, but they are still just SOO heavy.
Oh yeah so heavy. Compared to what? A Camry?
2010 Dodge Charger R/T 4031lbs
http://www.dodge.com/hostc/vsmc/vehi...Code=CUD201004

BMW 550i 4343lbs
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx

Mercedes Benz E550 4034lbs 4145lbs w/awd
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...-E/model-E550W

Hyudai Genesis 4.6 4012lbs
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/sedan/...WebSpecs07.pdf

Sometimes you have to read past biased magazine editors with agendas.

Seems to me the Charger isn't that heavy after all.

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Seems to me that you weren't paying attention. I didn't say that there weren't other cars that were heavier... I said it was heavy. And it is. Is the Camaro "not that heavy after all" just because the GT-R is a pinch heavier? No. It's still a heavy car.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Seems to me that you weren't paying attention. I didn't say that there weren't other cars that were heavier... I said it was heavy. And it is. Is the Camaro "not that heavy after all" just because the GT-R is a pinch heavier? No. It's still a heavy car.

Seems to me your back peddling.
Heavy is relative and to quote you " but they are still just SOO heavy.". Heavy compared to a MGB, yes. Heavy compared to similar vehicles in its class, no.
The "it's so heavy" agruement gets old the 10,000th time you heard it. Especially when it is regurgitated from some fanboi's mouth that only knows what he reads in a magazine. The new Camaro is on the heavy side compared to other cars in its class, but the topic was the new Charger not the Camaro. And like any true fanboi there is always a mention of the GTR to be found.
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If you think I'm any kind of "fanboi," you must not pay much attention to anything... The Charger is TOO HEAVY to me. That is what is called a personal opinion. I don't drive 4,000lb cars at this point in my life. Which means the Charger, or anything else in its class. Which the BMW 550i and Mercedes E550 are NOT in, by the way. You're like an automotive conspiracy theorist or something. Believe it or not, some people have valid and educated opinions, and don't just regurgitate what they read/hear.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Believe it or not, some people have valid and educated opinions, .
^^This is true^^ "but they are still just SOO heavy"
^^This is neither.^^
I pay attention to everyones opinion and usually respect it even if I disagree with it. I just have a low tolerance for unfounded B.S.
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Pardon my Francais, but how the hell is calling a 4,000+ car heavy "unfounded B.S.?" Did I hurt your feelings or something?
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I consider my car heavy. And its lighter then the SS, which is lighter then the charger. Very heavy car. And it drives like a very heavy car.
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I don't understand the complaining about weight of large, fullsized cars. Cars weigh what they weigh today. If you don't like it you could always buy a Kia, Fiesta or used Lotus Elise.
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Or something not large/fullsized.
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Well I agree with Irunelevens, the charger is too heavy, just like the new Camaro is too heavy. I find it appalling that a 425hp charger or challenger is unable to hit high 12s bone stock with that kinda hp. Dodge knows that there too heavy, thats why there stuffing in a larger 6.4 liter hemi to compensate. If GM is smart the'll give the SS a much needed bump in power as well.
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Originally Posted by Lethal Z
I find it appalling that a 425hp charger or challenger is unable to hit high 12s bone stock with that kinda hp.
It's been done.

Stock SRT8 12.95

Stock SRT8 12.86
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I'm w/ Irunelevens on this. 4,000lbs is too heavy any way you slice it. My dad's 2010 Mustang is on the upper end of vehicle weight that I feel comfortable driving. Now it could just be that I'm used to light cars, my Saturn weighs just a hair over 2,400lbs, but heavy cars are not very fun to drive. I don't like the way they feel like they're lumbering around and changing velocity feels like such an endeavor.
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Originally Posted by Lethal Z
I find it appalling that a 425hp charger or challenger is unable to hit high 12s bone stock with that kinda hp.
You are kidding, right?

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And one even quicker than those....
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50114
http://www.challengevideos.com/2005/...05notearsb.php

I was there the day Brent ran those numbers.
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Dam i am impressed by those traps, i ran a few SRT8s, all from rolls and expected them to trap lower then i did.

Impressive.
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Originally Posted by XxGarbSxX
I'm w/ Irunelevens on this. 4,000lbs is too heavy any way you slice it. My dad's 2010 Mustang is on the upper end of vehicle weight that I feel comfortable driving. Now it could just be that I'm used to light cars, my Saturn weighs just a hair over 2,400lbs, but heavy cars are not very fun to drive. I don't like the way they feel like they're lumbering around and changing velocity feels like such an endeavor.
Enjoy your Saturn.
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ill step up for saturn. My mom has a sky redline. the sky redline is pretty quick for what it is. I think stock sky redline for stock f body, it'll give it a run for it's money. I mean it's no car I'd personally buy. Its got great looks, but a cramped interior, and you better not try to take it on an overnight trip anywhere.
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Since this thread is about large 4 door rear wheel drive cars, why don't you complainers give us some examples of the same that weigh significantly less........
To me the G8 GT and GXP were the best cars in this segment. Then GM went and killed Pontiac.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
Since this thread is about large 4 door rear wheel drive cars, why don't you complainers give us some examples of the same that weigh significantly less........
To me the G8 GT and GXP were the best cars in this segment. Then GM went and killed Pontiac.
Yea they were the best cars but sold the worst, seems to be the story with a lot of GM products.


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