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Old 06-18-2010, 07:55 AM
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Being the true at heart import guy that I am. I love the look of the 2011 Mustang RTR. A dealer installed package that's mainly cosmetic with some mufflers, wheels and suspension. (looks like some import tuners got ahold of it)
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There will always be something faster and better it is just how progress works. Hell im sure at some point GM or Dodge will up there V6 Camaro and Challenger to compete if Ford sells a crap load of the new Mustangs. Its just how things work in the car biz. Ford makes a damn good car right now. I just prefer GM any day over any other brand. For the record Mustangs have always been slow its about time they steped there game up a little without putting an SC on it.

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Originally Posted by 94ss06gxp
i just wouldnt by a V6 mustang , camaro, challenger,etc cuz im young, want something with V8 power, thats all but i'd have to say that i love my 4 door V8 powered cars.
I'm not trying to start anything, so don't take it wrong, but you want something with V8 power?? Why, when you can get the same power you have without it being a V8. What's the difference where the power comes from? 300 HP is 300 HP, whether it comes form a V8 or an I4 Turbo. I just don't get the logic. You're paying for sound and worse gas mileage in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by RickAKATed10
I'm not trying to start anything, so don't take it wrong, but you want something with V8 power?? Why, when you can get the same power you have without it being a V8. What's the difference where the power comes from? 300 HP is 300 HP, whether it comes form a V8 or an I4 Turbo. I just don't get the logic. You're paying for sound and worse gas mileage in my opinion.
not to be a ***....but why do you insist on comparing apples and oranges? we all have a right to our opinion....but i dont why know why you just didnt buy a 2005 monte carlo ss supercharged v6...so answer this...if gm produced a 2012 z06 with a v6 making 505hp...same hp as the v8 thts in there now....do you think the vette lovers will say..."505hp is 505hp"???????????
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also, how come a stock ls4 with 303 at the crank can smoke a v6 camaro with 300 if its all the same?
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Originally Posted by stlsillest
not to be a ***....but why do you insist on comparing apples and oranges? we all have a right to our opinion....but i dont why know why you just didnt buy a 2005 monte carlo ss supercharged v6...so answer this...if gm produced a 2012 z06 with a v6 making 505hp...same hp as the v8 thts in there now....do you think the vette lovers will say..."505hp is 505hp"???????????
You're not being an *** at all, we're all entitled to our opinions and I think it's great that we can have discussions like this.

That being said, I didn't buy a '05 SS/SC because I don't care for the body style or interior. The basic style is the same, which I like, but the front, rear, and interior were much approved, in my opinion, in '06. Plus, 240 Hp/280 lb-ft is not 303 Hp/323 lb-ft. Pretty big difference there. I didn't buy my car for gas mileage, but if it was better that would have been great.

If GM did make a V6 Z06, Corvette lovers and purists would hate it, but that's them. However, 505 Hp is still 505 Hp (in the same car), and I think it would be pretty bad ***.
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Originally Posted by stlsillest
also, how come a stock ls4 with 303 at the crank can smoke a v6 camaro with 300 if its all the same?
Weight.
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I saw a '11 V6 last night run door to door with a '05-09 GT, both cars stock. Car was ranging in the high 13's at 100+ all night long.
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Originally Posted by JMo.
I saw a '11 V6 last night run door to door with a '05-09 GT, both cars stock. Car was ranging in the high 13's at 100+ all night long.
Awesome!
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Originally Posted by RickAKATed10
Awesome!
Yes it is, considering they will run with a good number of the V8 cars of the past. Good thing i'm far from stock, but then again there will always be someone faster than you.
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im just partial to v8's, thats all i got ta say about that. oh and another thing, i dont hate on v6, I4 cars i just wouldnt by one personally.
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Originally Posted by stlsillest
also, how come a stock ls4 with 303 at the crank can smoke a v6 camaro with 300 if its all the same?
Well Alex, what is torque?
Originally Posted by JMo.
Good thing i'm far from stock, but then again there will always be someone faster than you.
Quoted for the truth.
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i think theres no replacement for displacement. a bigger motor shouldnt have to work as hard to make more power per cubic inch, and i personally wouldnt want to buy a v6 muscle car. just my thoughts on it.
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Originally Posted by TheMonteMan
i think theres no replacement for displacement. a bigger motor shouldnt have to work as hard to make more power per cubic inch
lol. are you sure you own a ls4?
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[QUOTE=Brian396;13486843]Well Alex, what is torque?

im lost? who is alex
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[QUOTE=stlsillest;13487761]
Originally Posted by Brian396
Well Alex, what is torque?

im lost? who is alex
Alex Trebek from Jeopardy.
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[QUOTE=stlsillest;13487761]
Originally Posted by Brian396
Well Alex, what is torque?

im lost? who is alex
jeopardy lol
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im trying to understand a few things...personally im happy for ford to produce a "decent" v6 mustang....cause if look into the history of top of the line v6 mustangs....compared to the top of the line gm coupes "grand prix gtp/gtx" "monte carlo ss supercharged" it was night and day on the winner of the race...when the mustang gt was up against a trans am and camaro z28...we all know who got raped....now when pontiac released the top model firehawk and chevrolet brought out the camaro ss.....ford said, ****...motor to motor we dont have a chance...so lets supercharged the 4.6 and see what happen....they took over.....the 03-04 cobra is the only reason i even respect mustangs. somebody please correct me if im wrong!
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Originally Posted by RickAKATed10
I'm not trying to start anything, so don't take it wrong, but you want something with V8 power?? Why, when you can get the same power you have without it being a V8. What's the difference where the power comes from? 300 HP is 300 HP, whether it comes form a V8 or an I4 Turbo. I just don't get the logic. You're paying for sound and worse gas mileage in my opinion.
300hp is not 300hp. TQ matters alot, as does power delivery throughout the powerband as opposed to merely peak numbers

More displacement does not inherently mean worse gas mileage. Ask a 2000 LS1 car that can easily get 28mpg+ with some reporting over 30mpg on the highway, whileas the 4.6 liter Mustang GT made 260hp and got worse mileage doing it. Why is the just under 300hp EVO IX only rated at 18/24? You can't just say smaller engine = more fuel efficient vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Brian396
Well Alex, what is torque?

Quoted for the truth.
i was proving power ratio difference NOT actually asking the question!! now can i get a apoligy for 600...lol


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