Chevy Volt does 127mpg...
#41
My DD 89 civic hatch gets 42 mpg around town, makes 204whp, runs 8.20's in the 1/8th, autocrosses well, and I have about 6 grand in it with new paint and oem trim. For the life of me I dont understand the hybrid/electric deal. To each his own I suppose.
#42
My 2000 insight averages 75 mpg in town. It was 7k a few years ago. It has 147k miles and a few mods to help mpg. Its a 5 speed, and weights 1750 lbs.
Yes, 75mpg in town......I have done better and worse....The low recently was one tank at 64mpg.....but if I try I can get in the low 80's pretty easy.
It saves about 3000$ a year from the typical suv...
Yes, 75mpg in town......I have done better and worse....The low recently was one tank at 64mpg.....but if I try I can get in the low 80's pretty easy.
It saves about 3000$ a year from the typical suv...
#44
I like the styling of the crz.....but thats about it. I think they missed the boat by not improving on the gen 1 insight.
I own around 17 cars, and the only one import, the insight. It will be one of the last cars I would ever get rid of. I bought it used....Ive only changed the oil and changed the plugs in about 4 years. Honda just replaced the battery pack under warranty......cause its covered for 157k miles and 10 years. My car went into service in may 01. I ve had no other issues at all. It drives like a 50k mile ford or chevy. I modded it with MIMA, I run thin oil, aired up tires, the little things. Its faster then a stock civic.....and people always ask what kind of mpg it gets.....ussually like "whats that get 35-40?" I laugh and say if it did I d sell it, it gets double that.......Then they just look confused, like the number is too high to understand.
The technology is readily available to build a 100 mpg small 4 pass car, no one will do it because it costs to much money in lost revenue, not to build or sell. Imagine how much money the oil companies would lose if the average car got 65 mpg....some getting 30 and some getting 100.. Its criminal that suv s get 15-20 mpg.....
I own around 17 cars, and the only one import, the insight. It will be one of the last cars I would ever get rid of. I bought it used....Ive only changed the oil and changed the plugs in about 4 years. Honda just replaced the battery pack under warranty......cause its covered for 157k miles and 10 years. My car went into service in may 01. I ve had no other issues at all. It drives like a 50k mile ford or chevy. I modded it with MIMA, I run thin oil, aired up tires, the little things. Its faster then a stock civic.....and people always ask what kind of mpg it gets.....ussually like "whats that get 35-40?" I laugh and say if it did I d sell it, it gets double that.......Then they just look confused, like the number is too high to understand.
The technology is readily available to build a 100 mpg small 4 pass car, no one will do it because it costs to much money in lost revenue, not to build or sell. Imagine how much money the oil companies would lose if the average car got 65 mpg....some getting 30 and some getting 100.. Its criminal that suv s get 15-20 mpg.....
#46
98 dodge ram 3500 6 spd, built cummins, 12 valve, twins, hx40,ht3b
96 impala ss
2000 insight
2003 awd gmc savana full size conversion van (soon to be 405 ci turbo with 4l80e)
54 henry j, with srt 4 turbo nean running gear, abs brakes, air bags, everything
64 vette roadster late model lt1 t56, pro touring car
66 vette ls1 2004r
64 elcamino late model lt1 4l60e 12 bolt
57 chevy wagon project
64 chevy II project
cobra project
87 buick GN te45 turbo etc etc
89 tta #289 for sale
87 camaro drag radial car no engine
99 camaro prostreet car , big turbo ls
samurai sand jeep(like a rhino), cut up with 4 paddles and a spool and cage
mid travel rail with 3.3 subby
vw rail
I have a few cars that are not mine too....a 1934 ford truck with a dual quad 409, that I built to look like it came right out of 1963(white walls and lakes headers), a 92 z28 that I put a 383 stealth ram sbc in with a t56 with a holley 950 controlling it, and I get to play with a 71 442 occasionally, that has a big bbc and a big procharger......on a small tire....and no spool.....its a true street car, steel oem wheels, stock interior etc and over 4000 lbs.
strange stuff.....
96 impala ss
2000 insight
2003 awd gmc savana full size conversion van (soon to be 405 ci turbo with 4l80e)
54 henry j, with srt 4 turbo nean running gear, abs brakes, air bags, everything
64 vette roadster late model lt1 t56, pro touring car
66 vette ls1 2004r
64 elcamino late model lt1 4l60e 12 bolt
57 chevy wagon project
64 chevy II project
cobra project
87 buick GN te45 turbo etc etc
89 tta #289 for sale
87 camaro drag radial car no engine
99 camaro prostreet car , big turbo ls
samurai sand jeep(like a rhino), cut up with 4 paddles and a spool and cage
mid travel rail with 3.3 subby
vw rail
I have a few cars that are not mine too....a 1934 ford truck with a dual quad 409, that I built to look like it came right out of 1963(white walls and lakes headers), a 92 z28 that I put a 383 stealth ram sbc in with a t56 with a holley 950 controlling it, and I get to play with a 71 442 occasionally, that has a big bbc and a big procharger......on a small tire....and no spool.....its a true street car, steel oem wheels, stock interior etc and over 4000 lbs.
strange stuff.....
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#49
Hmmm, interesting...there was this article as well, where motor trend stated 72.9 mpg's They got a wide range of mpg's here..
http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/15/auto...year/index.htm
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Motor Trend Magazine has named General Motors' Chevrolet Volt its "Car of the Year."
The magazine's editor-in-chief, Angus MacKenzie, called the award one of "the most significant" Car of the Year awards in the magazine's history. Motor Trend has been published since 1949.
The Chevrolet Volt, which is just entering commercial production this month, is a plug-in car that can drive for about 40 miles on battery power before a gasoline engine kicks in to generate electricity for further driving.
"The more we think about the Volt, the more convinced we are this vehicle represents a real breakthrough," said Mackenzie.
The Volt offers the lower cost and greater efficiency of purely electric operation, MacKenzie said, while providing the flexibility and long driving range American consumers have come to expect from their cars.
0:00 /2:57Chevy Volt shines over the long haul
The Volt has been the subject of much controversy, in large part because it started development as a project of "Old GM" but is emerging just as a new, post-bankruptcy General Motors prepares to sell some of the government's majority ownership stake in the company.
"As a result, a lot of the sound and fury that has surrounded the Volt's launch has tended to obscure a simple truth: This automobile is a game-changer," Motor Trend said in a story about the award.
The award was presented at a ceremony inside GM's wind tunnel at the automaker's technical and design center near Detroit.
Motor Trend, one of the most influential automotive enthusiast magazines in the United States, also gives out SUV of the Year and Truck of the Year awards. The SUV of the Year was announced earlier with the award going to the Porsche Cayenne. The Truck of the Year will be announced in December.
To be considered, a vehicle had to be a totally new model or be significantly changed for the 2011 model year. Vehicles were judged on six different criteria: design, engineering, efficiency, safety, value and how well the vehicle fulfills its intended function.
The cars were put through track tests by Motor Trends editors. Then cars that were not eliminated in the track testing process were put through additional road tests.
Over several days of testing, the Volt returned overall fuel economy of 72.9 miles per gallon in Motor Trend's testing. Even if drivers went 80 miles between charging the battery, Motor Trend reported, the Volt would still be much cheaper to operate than ordinary hybrid cars, according to the magazine's test.
Past winners of the award have included the Chrysler 300 in 2005, Toyota Prius in 2004 and the Ford Taurus in 1986.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/15/auto...year/index.htm
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Motor Trend Magazine has named General Motors' Chevrolet Volt its "Car of the Year."
The magazine's editor-in-chief, Angus MacKenzie, called the award one of "the most significant" Car of the Year awards in the magazine's history. Motor Trend has been published since 1949.
The Chevrolet Volt, which is just entering commercial production this month, is a plug-in car that can drive for about 40 miles on battery power before a gasoline engine kicks in to generate electricity for further driving.
"The more we think about the Volt, the more convinced we are this vehicle represents a real breakthrough," said Mackenzie.
The Volt offers the lower cost and greater efficiency of purely electric operation, MacKenzie said, while providing the flexibility and long driving range American consumers have come to expect from their cars.
0:00 /2:57Chevy Volt shines over the long haul
The Volt has been the subject of much controversy, in large part because it started development as a project of "Old GM" but is emerging just as a new, post-bankruptcy General Motors prepares to sell some of the government's majority ownership stake in the company.
"As a result, a lot of the sound and fury that has surrounded the Volt's launch has tended to obscure a simple truth: This automobile is a game-changer," Motor Trend said in a story about the award.
The award was presented at a ceremony inside GM's wind tunnel at the automaker's technical and design center near Detroit.
Motor Trend, one of the most influential automotive enthusiast magazines in the United States, also gives out SUV of the Year and Truck of the Year awards. The SUV of the Year was announced earlier with the award going to the Porsche Cayenne. The Truck of the Year will be announced in December.
To be considered, a vehicle had to be a totally new model or be significantly changed for the 2011 model year. Vehicles were judged on six different criteria: design, engineering, efficiency, safety, value and how well the vehicle fulfills its intended function.
The cars were put through track tests by Motor Trends editors. Then cars that were not eliminated in the track testing process were put through additional road tests.
Over several days of testing, the Volt returned overall fuel economy of 72.9 miles per gallon in Motor Trend's testing. Even if drivers went 80 miles between charging the battery, Motor Trend reported, the Volt would still be much cheaper to operate than ordinary hybrid cars, according to the magazine's test.
Past winners of the award have included the Chrysler 300 in 2005, Toyota Prius in 2004 and the Ford Taurus in 1986.
#50
if you travel to and from work on a single charge (40 miles) during the work week and somehow have to use 1 gallon of gas for something that came up, that would be 200 mpg.
if you had to go that 40 miles plus use that tank of gas, then the mpg would different
#51
The volt isn't really for the people going on the interstate all the time. It's for a commute to work, the store, and home, stuff like that. Of course it is capable of the highway but the commute is where it is aimed at.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
#52
The volt isn't really for the people going on the interstate all the time. It's for a commute to work, the store, and home, stuff like that. Of course it is capable of the highway but the commute is where it is aimed at.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
#53
The volt isn't really for the people going on the interstate all the time. It's for a commute to work, the store, and home, stuff like that. Of course it is capable of the highway but the commute is where it is aimed at.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
#55
The volt isn't really for the people going on the interstate all the time. It's for a commute to work, the store, and home, stuff like that. Of course it is capable of the highway but the commute is where it is aimed at.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
Obviously - well maybe not, because some people seem to be missing it! - this car is not meant for everyone. It fits a specific market. It wouldn't work well for me, for example, at all, as I drive at least 100 miles a day, on the interstate. So it wouldn't be a good fit for me. But, for a coworker who is driving only 5-10 miles, it would do great.
#56
The problem is, that if you only drive 5-10 miles.....who cares what kind of mpg you get.........drive a blown hemi cuda.....
More then mpg.....isnt it really mpd....miles per dollar........If you charge the volt every day and it costs an average of 1.50 day plus gas use....for say a 250 miles in a week....If it goes an average of 30 miles on the charge then thats about 100 miles on gas suppliment averaging 33 mpg...on gas.?
Thats 11.50$ in electricity plus 100 miles worth of gas at about 3 gallons....so another 9$....about 20$ for that 250 miles. Not bad, but at 43k$ or something......????
I put $30 in my 15 yr old technology insight and go 650 miles at least. Who thought the volt was a good idea?
More then mpg.....isnt it really mpd....miles per dollar........If you charge the volt every day and it costs an average of 1.50 day plus gas use....for say a 250 miles in a week....If it goes an average of 30 miles on the charge then thats about 100 miles on gas suppliment averaging 33 mpg...on gas.?
Thats 11.50$ in electricity plus 100 miles worth of gas at about 3 gallons....so another 9$....about 20$ for that 250 miles. Not bad, but at 43k$ or something......????
I put $30 in my 15 yr old technology insight and go 650 miles at least. Who thought the volt was a good idea?
#58
What they need to do is seperate the two modes, electric and gas and give a mpg on gas only and how much mpg an equivalent cost of electricity would be for just the electric mode and give the ranges of both so ppl understand once they get past the electric range then they will start geting the gas only rated mpg.
#59
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Gas/Oil and Electric prices vary so all calculations and speculations are difficult to represent correctly. Most electricity to my understanding is generated from coal. And our electric infrastructure is over-taxed as it is. I could see plugging the car in to the garage which has a solar panel to produce/store enough electric to refuel the car, then driving it on a commute that was at or near its operating range on electric alone. That sounds pretty decent to me. The gas in the tank would be basically for back-up/emergency use only.
#60
Got it. I guess my sarcasm was missed with the
The point I was trying to make: These figures are deceiving for the average consumer. If you are NOT able to run on a fresh charge day to day, THEN what kind of mileage would you be getting? People aren't going to take the time to read all of these articles to know the exact details for the trips that come up with all of these different mpg figures.
The point I was trying to make: These figures are deceiving for the average consumer. If you are NOT able to run on a fresh charge day to day, THEN what kind of mileage would you be getting? People aren't going to take the time to read all of these articles to know the exact details for the trips that come up with all of these different mpg figures.