TheHitman

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I don't know about that. As far as looks I would put the LF-A up there with the lookers like the Aventador but that's just my .2 cents.

mac62989

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Im not saying it looks bad, its not my cup of tea really. Just saying Tony attacked its looks, not the LF-A performance.

gocartone

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Of course this is meant for handling and not drag racing, but that doesn't mean they had to make it slower than a freakin' Camry. IDK how anyone can even try to defend the 197hp in 2011, maybe in 1999 197hp would be fine for a car of this weight but not today. The 2600lb isn't even confirmed yet, is it? STI version is not going to have a turbo, that has already been confirmed; so it's just a no-*****, no-turbo, and over-priced car.

Wnts2Go10O

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hehe... another car to put an LSx into

Latch

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I'd much rather do an LS1 swap into a car that you can look at without vomiting.

Irunelevens

I really don't understand all the hatred over the looks. To me it looks very chiseled and purpose-built. And even with "only" 197hp, I bet this car will be every bit as fast in a straight line as a V6 Camaro. 14.2 @ 98mph is my guess. But like TriShield said, that isn't what this car is about...some people get it, some people don't.

Edit: I also think the Subaru version looks even better, and can't wait for the STI.

Irunelevens

And we get the Subaru and Scion versions here, not the Toyota version. So it won't look exactly like that, I'm guessing.

mac62989

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No boost? Thats lame since when do they do that?

CaptainDirtymax

check this out. it's how low that little boxer engine sits in the chassis.



damn thing is on the ground almost.

chaman

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Looks like **** and its slow...pass.

stinkynuts

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Looks gross. Stance and wheels kill it for me.

Glad to see that Toyota and Subaru are jumping on the miata bandwagon

No thanks. I'll take a C5 for that much $$..

nanokpsi

I think this car is meant to be a cheap, sporty car. It will start in the low 20s from the Scion camp.

As far as being faster or handling better than a Camry, I wouldn't say that is something to brag about.

They are claiming 0-60 in 6 seconds, which makes for a very boring sports car, regardless of handling.

I think it looks fine, but unless it has the STI's 2.5l in it, I couldn't give a crap about it. That would at least make it accelerate like a new 5.0, but still offer the aspects fo a driver's car. The problem with that is they are actively trying to market this to recent college grads, and those changes would add to the price.

Hopefully STI will make a version of the BRZ with the 2.5 turbo motor in it, and ditch the dual injection crap that would probably make it impossible to come up with a turning strategy for it. Even if it added 100lbs to this car, it would be relatively easy to get 450 crank horsepower, and put on par with the 2013 GT500/C6 Z06. I could justify that to myself.

The one problem I do see is they have no other model to offer somoene who buys this car, when they want somehting a little more expensive and with a lot more performance. A 22year old that buys this car isn't going to want a Camry for thier next car when they are in their mid 20s.

Irunelevens

I wouldn't say "boring," especially if you live someplace with good roads. This could end up being the best-handling car under $50k.

Firebirdfan

I'd like to see them put a turbo on a car with a 12.5:1 compression ratio.

TransAmWS.6

Not bad sounding and it might make a decent Auto-X car for some. I want to see it with a few bolt-on's, lowering springs, and some nicer wheels, might actually be an alright little car after all that. Reminds me of an S2000 in a way, which is why it's starting to grow on me some.
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gocartone

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Highly doubt that, a Boss Mustang would man handle this thing everywhere. I don't care how well a car can handle it still needs at least SOME power to have fun with it. Hell, it wouldn't even be that bad if it was the same 197hp but with an overly built engine and a turbo/supercharger on it; but 197 ponies and no FI just doesn't do anything for me.

Irunelevens

You realize that there is a difference between "handling," and "going around a track." With an EXTREMELY low center of gravity, good weight distribution (not perfect, but good), a well designed independent suspension, and a 2,600lb curb weight, the feel of this car will be hard to beat. The sportier versions are going to be very impressive, I would wager.

gocartone

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I do, but what's the point in having the best handling car out there if you are getting beat at the track(road, not drag) by Camrys? The STI BRZ is more than likely not going to have a turbo(IIRC Subaru already said it wouldn't, but I'm not 100% on that), so short of doing an engine swap or building and turbocharging the stock engine, this thing is going to be SLOW.

TriShield

I'm afraid it is RWD only. The powertrain is set too low in the car to accomodate AWD. But it does have one of the (if not the) lowest center of gravity of any sports car.

TriShield

Ever drive a slow car fast?