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Old 01-10-2012, 09:41 PM
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DarkFox-Ha, yeah, I like their current trucks pretty good too. Nice motor options, great looking, well laid out and comfortable interiors. Also, Fiat owns Ferrari if I recall correctly, and we all know the craftsmanship and precision that goes into Ferrari's. Hopefully they have truly been spreading that same charisma over to Chrysler with their current lineup, but like I said, time will tell.
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Originally Posted by lethal bird
This is funny because one of the local know it alls was telling how fast the new dart was going to be.
from the looks of things I'd say it's primary competition is the new chevy cruze, and the new hyundai sonata.

it's not really corolla/civic small from the look of things.

I imagine they'll probably have a base model in the mid/high 100s HP wise, maybe low 200s, then have a "performance" model that's got a v6 with ~250-300hp.

it'd probably move pretty good for what it is. Most manufacturers in this class these days seem to be shooting for the ~8sec 0-60 times like the jetta pulls. Maybe the performance model will be closer to 6.

all speculation based on competition of course. I wouldn't really pull beside one at a redlight and consider it a threat, even if my car is in the condition it's in.

Still.. it's better than the nissan cube right!?
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new line up for dodge can suck it imo, im really tired of all this old school crap comming back , i still dont know what happened to the charger lol 4 door sedan with a wack hemi and some charger badges,whatever honest i was out yesterday and someone told me about a new firebird that was coming out ,i said really lol who is going to make that dodge?
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6
Do I think it looks amazing? No

But I don't think it is absolutely horrible either. Looks on par with a lot of the other compact sedans out there with the sport aspect.
Originally Posted by Zlow28
not bad for a $15k car
^ This ^
Old 01-11-2012, 06:38 PM
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I'll wait till I see one in person....the Kias I think look better in person than in photos.

As for Dodge, I really dig the new Durango - especially the front end.
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Hey that thing got a hemi in it? Lol
Old 01-11-2012, 07:38 PM
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The SRT version can be called the ShaRT.
Old 01-14-2012, 01:44 AM
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@transamws6

Yeah fiat owns Ferrari and quite a bit of other car companies. Doesn't mean that any of that quality has trickled down just yet. Also type in 458 Italia fire on YouTube
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Originally Posted by TransAmWS.6
Also, Fiat owns Ferrari if I recall correctly, and we all know the craftsmanship and precision that goes into Ferrari's.
Yes, excellent craftsmanship and ultra fine materials do go into them...but that still doesn't make them the most reliable/dependable (and certainly NOT the most 'maintenance free' ) vehicles out there, especially considering their cost.





Originally Posted by DWake
Yeah fiat owns Ferrari and quite a bit of other car companies. Doesn't mean that any of that quality has trickled down just yet. Also type in 458 Italia fire on YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRHJACxTAUs

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/articl...458-fire.shtml
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Yes, excellent craftsmanship and ultra fine materials do go into them...but that still doesn't make them the most reliable/dependable (and certainly NOT the most 'maintenance free' ) vehicles out there, especially considering their cost.
yea, my understanding is that ferrari is one of the LEAST reliable cars on the market today.

But they don't seem to care, because if you can afford $250k for 4 wheels and a driver's seat, then you can afford to take care of it they assume.
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I would give this little Dart a shot. . . hear me out:

I sell Nissan at an Auto Center with 4 major brands (Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai, Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep). On my lot right now, we have a couple 2010 Dodge Avengers (used), and a 2011 Avenger as well (also used). While they look the same on the outside, the interiors in the '10 vs '11 are night and day.

I actually LIKE the 2011 Avenger on the inside. Softer materials, leather seems half-way decent, lines are a little nicer and the whole thing feels like a single complete thought, not just a car destined for rental-car fodder.

I even took the initiative and drove the 10 vs the 11 back-to-back. Ignoring the drivetrain difference (4cyl vs 6cyl), the 11 felt nicer, quieter, and didnt SQUEAK at every bump in the road.

...long story short: if this is the direction with all dodge products... they just might get competitive soon. If chevy and ford can, why not dodge?
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I'd rather have a 2013 Hyundai Veloster Turbo or a new GTI or GTI-R
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Wow that like ****
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nope, it doesn't have a Hemi ...
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*Dislike*

So it went from this...................... to that ugly FWD thing?






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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:27 PM
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I think this is Fiats attempt for dodge (chrysler) to survive in todays market. Historically dodge has produced cars, suvs, and trucks with the worst gas mileage of about any manufacturer.



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