SLP GN and GNX
03-03-2012, 12:14 PM
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This should NOT be in SLP's hands. This should be coming from the FACTORY in AWD 325-350hp form and called GSX. End of discussion. And yes the Opel Insignia OPC is a ******* great looking hot daily driver.
03-03-2012, 04:28 PM
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03-03-2012, 10:07 PM
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Look at current pricing to be "reminded" that GM isn't ABOUT to sell the car you guys just described at the price you want.
03-05-2012, 12:54 PM
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HAHAHAHA Heres a piece of knowledge for you. You realize the main reason they stopped production of the GN/GNX was because they were beating Corvettes from the factory.
So in todays age think how you would feel if you were driving a C6 and got beat by a Buick park avenue.
So in todays age think how you would feel if you were driving a C6 and got beat by a Buick park avenue.
03-05-2012, 01:40 PM
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Oh damn, I hoped that if I close my eyes long enough this horrible idea would be gone, but no, it spilled over to LS1 tech 
I hate the idea of slapping a classic, well respected badge on a FWD car.
Nothing wrong with the Insignia OPC version, good or even great car - but not as an GNX. Call it Regal, Riviera, Gran Sport, BUT NOT GNX. It's Buick's Holy Grail that deserves a LOT more than GM can afford/are willing to do(!) now.
I hate the idea of slapping a classic, well respected badge on a FWD car.
Nothing wrong with the Insignia OPC version, good or even great car - but not as an GNX. Call it Regal, Riviera, Gran Sport, BUT NOT GNX. It's Buick's Holy Grail that deserves a LOT more than GM can afford/are willing to do(!) now.
03-05-2012, 01:50 PM
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Oh damn, I hoped that if I close my eyes long enough this horrible idea would be gone, but no, it spilled over to LS1 tech
I hate the idea of slapping a classic, well respected badge on a FWD car.
Nothing wrong with the Insignia OPC version, good or even great car - but not as an GNX. Call it Regal, Riviera, Gran Sport, BUT NOT GNX. It's Buick's Holy Grail that deserves a LOT more than GM can afford/are willing to do(!) now.
I hate the idea of slapping a classic, well respected badge on a FWD car.
Nothing wrong with the Insignia OPC version, good or even great car - but not as an GNX. Call it Regal, Riviera, Gran Sport, BUT NOT GNX. It's Buick's Holy Grail that deserves a LOT more than GM can afford/are willing to do(!) now.
03-05-2012, 02:17 PM
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No on GN or GNX Another old school here...Having owned both an 84 Type {ex wife did'nt like black} and 87 GN, These cars, in the day, were the cars to own..These cars dominated all cars in this era...Unless SLP can raise the bar to this level, I pass...
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
03-05-2012, 03:58 PM
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Another old school here...Having owned both an 84 Type {ex wife did'nt like black} and 87 GN, These cars, in the day, were the cars to own..These cars dominated all cars in this era...Unless SLP can raise the bar to this level, I pass...
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
03-05-2012, 05:17 PM
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WTF are you talking about?
26-27 model years later people are still talking about these cars. They are still desired, and revered. 30 years from now there will still be a cult following.
Doubt the same can be said for today's FWD and AWD.
A Hyundai Genesis would kill a Dusenberg SJ in every performance category but in 100 years from now the Dusenberg will still be in museums while the other will be a part of a toaster or in a landfill.
26-27 model years later people are still talking about these cars. They are still desired, and revered. 30 years from now there will still be a cult following.
Doubt the same can be said for today's FWD and AWD.
A Hyundai Genesis would kill a Dusenberg SJ in every performance category but in 100 years from now the Dusenberg will still be in museums while the other will be a part of a toaster or in a landfill.
If you are admitting that cars in the 80's sucked then why do you care about protecting such an awful legacy?
03-05-2012, 09:19 PM
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Another old school here...Having owned both an 84 Type {ex wife did'nt like black} and 87 GN, These cars, in the day, were the cars to own..These cars dominated all cars in this era...Unless SLP can raise the bar to this level, I pass...
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
Now remember the era, Miami Vice was the best show on TV..Mike Tyson boxed once a month on HBO..
03-05-2012, 09:29 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Regal Grand National name was used for several years, not just on the all black turbo 3.8 cars (The GNX's), not all the grand nationals were mind blowing at the time.
I think that a GN with AWD with 300+hp and no options/lightweight car would be a good idea.
GNX is where it starts to kind of bother me, because that is the really legendary nameplate. 2 door, no options, lightweight, no excuses ALL black, AWD 300+hp, sub 13 second 1/4 miles, cheap, and easy to mod...that wouldn't be anything to complain about IMO. RWD would be preferable but obviously that won't happen given the current chassis design. Perhaps the cadillac ATS platform would have been a better starting point.
I think that a GN with AWD with 300+hp and no options/lightweight car would be a good idea.
GNX is where it starts to kind of bother me, because that is the really legendary nameplate. 2 door, no options, lightweight, no excuses ALL black, AWD 300+hp, sub 13 second 1/4 miles, cheap, and easy to mod...that wouldn't be anything to complain about IMO. RWD would be preferable but obviously that won't happen given the current chassis design. Perhaps the cadillac ATS platform would have been a better starting point.
03-05-2012, 11:40 PM
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I believe the first Grand National was a 1982 Regal (in grey or maybe two tone, not all black) and I don't even think all of them were actually turbocharged, though the turbocharged Regal itself was around since 1977/1978 (my ex sister-in-law's dad bought one brand new in 1978
). The '84 and '85 (non intercooled) Grand Nationals and T-types though potent enough at the time, really weren't all that fast.The T-type name was plastered on a few different Buick models I believe as was name Gran Sport (not Grand Sport like the Corvettes
).There were GSX's of the old Skylark GS era as well but the 'GNX' name itself was ONLY used on those special edition 1987 GNs.
And then there was this little gem, the LeSabre Grand National.
03-07-2012, 01:07 AM
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I also thought the '80s Riviera T-type turbos (or even the later era/sportier supercharged ones) were pretty cool, they rode a lot like Cadillac Eldorados too.
03-07-2012, 06:35 AM
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03-07-2012, 06:48 AM
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They should have made the Corvettes faster back then, think of all the fun cars we could have had if the horsepower ceiling hadn't been set so low by the Corvette. There was the GN/GNX, the Turbo Trans Am, the Syclone/Typhoon...all of those could have easily got a big horsepower boost if the Corvette wasn't so damn slow back then! It's the same problem with the ZL1, I'm still shocked they gave that more horsepower than the Z06 has.
03-07-2012, 07:04 AM
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Correct, the turbo V6 is not available in the US version and the awd system is not available with the 2.0 turbo either in the US. This was what pissed off all the people who were excited about the GS, they killed the turbo 6 and killed the awd in GS trim.