Nurburgring in USA?! Replica proposed for Vegas area.
03-15-2012, 08:18 PM
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I do. There are always people that over estimate their abilities...and if driving on the ring is as easy as driving in a straight line, road racing/auto cross would probly be more popular...and most of the tracks we have are not even on the same level of difficulty that Nurburg has.
Basically saying the weekend enthusiast cane go drag on the weekend with little danger. You get an inexperienced driver on the ring with other drivers and the chance for an accident rises. I would love to drive the ring, but when you don't know anything about the other people next to you, I wouldn't be so sure.
Basically saying the weekend enthusiast cane go drag on the weekend with little danger. You get an inexperienced driver on the ring with other drivers and the chance for an accident rises. I would love to drive the ring, but when you don't know anything about the other people next to you, I wouldn't be so sure.
03-18-2012, 08:39 PM
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03-18-2012, 09:36 PM
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Defiantly not enough elevation changes to rival the ring in that category haha, but perhaps just some super tricky corner set ups 
I would love to take a ride in the "ring taxi" to fully experience that what that road is like. They say some of those turns have you practically staring straight up into the sky as you crest the hills
I would love to take a ride in the "ring taxi" to fully experience that what that road is like. They say some of those turns have you practically staring straight up into the sky as you crest the hills
03-18-2012, 09:56 PM
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Defiantly not enough elevation changes to rival the ring in that category haha, but perhaps just some super tricky corner set ups
I would love to take a ride in the "ring taxi" to fully experience that what that road is like. They say some of those turns have you practically staring straight up into the sky as you crest the hills
I would love to take a ride in the "ring taxi" to fully experience that what that road is like. They say some of those turns have you practically staring straight up into the sky as you crest the hills
elevation changes are a real test of driver and machine
Anyhow why do we need the ring in the USA?
we have awesome tracks like
Leguna Seca, Road Atlanta, Pikes Peak
03-18-2012, 10:01 PM
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We don't have any tracks LIKE the Ring though. Nothing that tests cars and drivers like that.
03-18-2012, 10:02 PM
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Look up Travis Prastrana when he breaks the record
at Pikes Peak and tell me we don't have anything on the Ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXJYc4CpXA
at Pikes Peak and tell me we don't have anything on the Ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXJYc4CpXA
03-18-2012, 10:11 PM
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Look up Travis Prastrana when he breaks the record
at Pikes Peak and tell me we don't have anything on the Ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXJYc4CpXA
at Pikes Peak and tell me we don't have anything on the Ring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXJYc4CpXA
03-19-2012, 07:00 AM
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I still don't see why people make such a big deal about the ring.
There are better tracks than the ring.
Isle Man TT for one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI
There are better tracks than the ring.
Isle Man TT for one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI
03-19-2012, 08:01 AM
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I still don't see why people make such a big deal about the ring.
There are better tracks than the ring.
Isle Man TT for one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI
There are better tracks than the ring.
Isle Man TT for one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI
03-19-2012, 08:35 AM
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Are you implying the Ring is the top dog because it is such a hard coarse to race on or because it's old and winds thru Medevil towns and castles?
Because Europe is like how many hundreds of years older than the USA?
How would we have race tracks that wind thru castles and hundreds of year old towns
Besides the people in the USA are so tight a$$ed about racing and wanting to sue everybody for every little stupid thing no one would even consider doing something like that over here.
I have nothing against the Ring, it's a cool track but when I watch people racing on there I don't get that ooh tinglely feeling like it's the $hit like you are making it out to be and all the German car makers make it out to be. And that all the American car builders should spend thousands of dollars shipping our cars over there to test on that track. Actaully when I watch the video of cars racing on the ring it looks rather boring. It's just a super long *** track with mainly lots of high speed turns, imo not a whole lot of 100 to 0, 0 back up to 100 type turns, no negative camber down hill sweepers, I mean even Laguna Seca which is a lot smaller and tighter of a track I feel has more technical and harder turns.
There are a lot of good tracks in the USA, ones with crazy and technical turns
ones with crazy *** elevation rises and drops. Where when the guy racing on them goes ripping thru your heart is stopping when you watch the guy go over the rise or down the chicane into some crazy corkscrew or something. Like when you watch them race and you just feel something epic is taking place I just don't get that with the Ring.
Road Atlanta
Infineon Raceway
Virginia International Raceway
Watkins Glen
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Road America
Have you actually raced on or seen races or videos of any of these tracks?
Because Europe is like how many hundreds of years older than the USA?
How would we have race tracks that wind thru castles and hundreds of year old towns
Besides the people in the USA are so tight a$$ed about racing and wanting to sue everybody for every little stupid thing no one would even consider doing something like that over here.
I have nothing against the Ring, it's a cool track but when I watch people racing on there I don't get that ooh tinglely feeling like it's the $hit like you are making it out to be and all the German car makers make it out to be. And that all the American car builders should spend thousands of dollars shipping our cars over there to test on that track. Actaully when I watch the video of cars racing on the ring it looks rather boring. It's just a super long *** track with mainly lots of high speed turns, imo not a whole lot of 100 to 0, 0 back up to 100 type turns, no negative camber down hill sweepers, I mean even Laguna Seca which is a lot smaller and tighter of a track I feel has more technical and harder turns.
There are a lot of good tracks in the USA, ones with crazy and technical turns
ones with crazy *** elevation rises and drops. Where when the guy racing on them goes ripping thru your heart is stopping when you watch the guy go over the rise or down the chicane into some crazy corkscrew or something. Like when you watch them race and you just feel something epic is taking place I just don't get that with the Ring.
Road Atlanta
Infineon Raceway
Virginia International Raceway
Watkins Glen
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Road America
Have you actually raced on or seen races or videos of any of these tracks?
03-19-2012, 09:13 AM
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Are you implying the Ring is the top dog because it is such a hard coarse to race on or because it's old and winds thru Medevil towns and castles?
Because Europe is like how many hundreds of years older than the USA?
How would we have race tracks that wind thru castles and hundreds of year old towns
Besides the people in the USA are so tight a$$ed about racing and wanting to sue everybody for every little stupid thing no one would even consider doing something like that over here.
I have nothing against the Ring, it's a cool track but when I watch people racing on there I don't get that ooh tinglely feeling like it's the $hit like you are making it out to be and all the German car makers make it out to be. And that all the American car builders should spend thousands of dollars shipping our cars over there to test on that track. Actaully when I watch the video of cars racing on the ring it looks rather boring. It's just a super long *** track with mainly lots of high speed turns, imo not a whole lot of 100 to 0, 0 back up to 100 type turns, no negative camber down hill sweepers, I mean even Laguna Seca which is a lot smaller and tighter of a track I feel has more technical and harder turns.
There are a lot of good tracks in the USA, ones with crazy and technical turns
ones with crazy *** elevation rises and drops. Where when the guy racing on them goes ripping thru your heart is stopping when you watch the guy go over the rise or down the chicane into some crazy corkscrew or something. Like when you watch them race and you just feel something epic is taking place I just don't get that with the Ring.
Road Atlanta
Infineon Raceway
Virginia International Raceway
Watkins Glen
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Road America
Have you actually raced on or seen races or videos of any of these tracks?
Because Europe is like how many hundreds of years older than the USA?
How would we have race tracks that wind thru castles and hundreds of year old towns
Besides the people in the USA are so tight a$$ed about racing and wanting to sue everybody for every little stupid thing no one would even consider doing something like that over here.
I have nothing against the Ring, it's a cool track but when I watch people racing on there I don't get that ooh tinglely feeling like it's the $hit like you are making it out to be and all the German car makers make it out to be. And that all the American car builders should spend thousands of dollars shipping our cars over there to test on that track. Actaully when I watch the video of cars racing on the ring it looks rather boring. It's just a super long *** track with mainly lots of high speed turns, imo not a whole lot of 100 to 0, 0 back up to 100 type turns, no negative camber down hill sweepers, I mean even Laguna Seca which is a lot smaller and tighter of a track I feel has more technical and harder turns.
There are a lot of good tracks in the USA, ones with crazy and technical turns
ones with crazy *** elevation rises and drops. Where when the guy racing on them goes ripping thru your heart is stopping when you watch the guy go over the rise or down the chicane into some crazy corkscrew or something. Like when you watch them race and you just feel something epic is taking place I just don't get that with the Ring.
Road Atlanta
Infineon Raceway
Virginia International Raceway
Watkins Glen
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Road America
Have you actually raced on or seen races or videos of any of these tracks?
03-19-2012, 09:34 AM
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Isle of Man is nice but goes through towns and is not a 24/7 track that can be used as such...
Pikes peak is more of a really long WRC special stage. very little more.
The ring is a track that is a actual race track and is also a highly demanding long course with MANY different types of corners with massive elivation changes. There is no place yet that replicates the dedicated race course type experiance with all of the things the ring offers.
Yes the isle of man is a great track for TT but isnt available 24/7 for racing.
Plus it terms of complexity.
here is the 30 somthing mile ISLE OF MAN course
Here is the shorter(but still VERY long) Nurburgring course... More corners less hilly straightaways.
Nuf said I am excited to hear about a US copy, even if a cheap rip off of the original.
Pikes peak is more of a really long WRC special stage. very little more.
The ring is a track that is a actual race track and is also a highly demanding long course with MANY different types of corners with massive elivation changes. There is no place yet that replicates the dedicated race course type experiance with all of the things the ring offers.
Yes the isle of man is a great track for TT but isnt available 24/7 for racing.
Plus it terms of complexity.
here is the 30 somthing mile ISLE OF MAN course
Here is the shorter(but still VERY long) Nurburgring course... More corners less hilly straightaways.
Nuf said I am excited to hear about a US copy, even if a cheap rip off of the original.
03-19-2012, 10:39 AM
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See that would be GREAT. But they wont do it. Too many lawyers and estrogen in this country. Period. One of the few places that isnt as true is vegas.
hardest part is going to be elevation changes.
Take the tail of the dragon or any of the great mountain pass roads in this country and build them into a nice 12-20 mile loop and youll be good. But its about where and who would say ok.
NIMBY will come up pretty much anywhere.
hardest part is going to be elevation changes.
Take the tail of the dragon or any of the great mountain pass roads in this country and build them into a nice 12-20 mile loop and youll be good. But its about where and who would say ok.
NIMBY will come up pretty much anywhere.
03-19-2012, 11:06 AM
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Isle of Man is nice but goes through towns and is not a 24/7 track that can be used as such...
Pikes peak is more of a really long WRC special stage. very little more.
The ring is a track that is a actual race track and is also a highly demanding long course with MANY different types of corners with massive elivation changes. There is no place yet that replicates the dedicated race course type experiance with all of the things the ring offers.
Yes the isle of man is a great track for TT but isnt available 24/7 for racing.
Plus it terms of complexity.
here is the 30 somthing mile ISLE OF MAN course
Here is the shorter(but still VERY long) Nurburgring course... More corners less hilly straightaways.
Nuf said I am excited to hear about a US copy, even if a cheap rip off of the original.
Pikes peak is more of a really long WRC special stage. very little more.
The ring is a track that is a actual race track and is also a highly demanding long course with MANY different types of corners with massive elivation changes. There is no place yet that replicates the dedicated race course type experiance with all of the things the ring offers.
Yes the isle of man is a great track for TT but isnt available 24/7 for racing.
Plus it terms of complexity.
here is the 30 somthing mile ISLE OF MAN course
Here is the shorter(but still VERY long) Nurburgring course... More corners less hilly straightaways.
Nuf said I am excited to hear about a US copy, even if a cheap rip off of the original.
However, the amount of money to replicate it would be very challenging. Earth moving, elevation changes, and exact corners would make for a nightmare on cost.
My ideal dream would be a motorsports venue that had ALL of these at one location:
long, technical road course track (13+ turns, a few LONG stretches)
3-4 turn banked oval 1.5-2 miles in length
1/4 mile drag strip
Stand mile drag strip
Autocross, and skidpad course
cart course
Some places I have been have some of the above, but not everything. I would love to test my car in the same day at a round course, 1/4 mile, and standing mile.