D3VIL

Damn look how much lower it is... that's fun! I love super low cars, specially in curvy roads! That hugging the corner feeling is priceless

2cat95ta

If you compare a car to a stock V6 in a track (and lose in the process) then there is no way it can be called a "performance car". I figured that subaru would blow away the mustang in a track since it is shorter, weighs less, etc and the mustang is basically a tank.

2cat95ta

Every time I think miata I think blonde haired chick with big sunglasses

There's a place for these small cars (at the track), but if it falls short of a tank car like I stated above, then it better be a car that reacts good to bolt ons

2002_Z28_Six_Speed

iTrader: (19)

I could still see buying this car (aside from the high price/performance). If it is truly fun to drive it would make a great DD. Someone is always going to be faster than you. Sure you might get passed from time to time but it is just part of life.

gocartone

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I have, these go for the same price a WRX goes for, that's insane when you look at what you're getting. They didn't need the nice interior like they have, could have made a more basic one and slapped an under $20k price tag on it.

Irunelevens

1) Completely different cars.
2) It doesn't exactly have a "nice" interior

ZV8

iTrader: (2)

I agree with gocartone, these are way too much $$$ for the performance, and the miata's are really dumb overpriced. Worst part about the miata's are they only get 28mpg wtf? Atleast this BRZ gets a few mpg better than the mustang which is btw quite a bit less expensive and faster by a LOT. For the base price of a BRZ you can get a nicely equiped mustang and actually have room in the back for passengers.

Irunelevens

If you want a car like the Mustang. If you don't, then it doesn't matter.

AznMuscle

iTrader: (7)

Guess I am the only one here who wouldn't mind one, if it wasn't for the driving to the snowy mountains I'm gonna be doing a lot of when my Dad retires in Feb. I really like these cars, I really like the sound of the boxer engines, but damn straight I wish it was turbo'd and not a low 15 second car (non PI head mustang area). That said, if I was making slightly more money (or wasn't getting married in September), I would be picking up a slightly used premium ASAP for nice DD.

Irunelevens

I still hold by my 14.6 @ 95mph guess when actual owners get them at the track. If any of them care, of course.

Johnnystock

iTrader: (6)

This car is for losers.

wav3form

iTrader: (1)

Nah it's going to be for the nerds that think slower is faster.

It'llrun

That may be right on and I'm sure we'll read it over at some point soon. Considering the weight, it could run even quicker(I expect more like a 100mph trap). With its lack of torque, it may not run as quick. I'd laugh my *** off if we saw a streak of 15.0's @ 100+ mph.

gocartone

iTrader: (4)

Best run ever won't touch 100mph with them, high 14-low 15 is where I see them staying bone stock. These weigh the same as S2000s and those barely touch 100mph with an extra 40hp. 2800lbs isn't that light for a car with only 200hp.

BanditTA

iTrader: (3)

That's what i thought too, that is what a cobalt SS weighed and with a GMPP kit they had 100+ hp more.

O but weight...these handle sooooo much better. There isn't a single reason in the world for me to even look at that car (Yota or Subi), they look god awful, way under powered, and will be the next "Honda Civic Vtec craze on the streets".

gocartone

iTrader: (4)

Yup, that's what fun cars had for weight and horsepower 10-15 years ago. SRT4 Neons weigh the same too, with a lot more power stock and very easy to upgrade, and like the Cobalt SS they aren't slouches around a track. FWD DSMs were in the same weight bracket too, along with 240SXs (which were slower, but they were released close to 20 years ago and aren't that much slower)...IDK I'm just not impressed with what you are getting for your money with this car.

Irunelevens

I'm not saying this car is the second coming of Jesus or something, but numbers aren't everything. There is a reason that every single person that drives it loves it.

LS1LT1

iTrader: (16)

At least a few owners will get them into the 14s, that's very likely.




You will see plenty of 15s as well, and not to make excuses for the car in advance but there could also be other factors (driver's skill, air/track conditions etc.) that will contribute to the ones running the slow ETs as well.
And I'm pretty sure more stock ones will be seen running 15s than 14s too.
I'm thinking that the automatics might all be in the 15s (16s?) though.

chaman

iTrader: (5)

I fail to comprehend why they were compared in the first place.

Z Fury

iTrader: (1)

My thought is for marketing reasons. The BRZ would get destroyed by anything in its class (which there really isn't anything). They knew the only way to make the car look good was to put it against a V6 pony car and then comment forever about how easy it is to drive into corners as compared to the "brutish" pony car.

But yeah, this comparison makes as much sense as a Porsche Cayman vs. Mustang GT comparison.