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Old 05-28-2012, 10:02 PM
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Wasn't talking about actual performance we all know the cars of the 60s weighed alot and didn't handle well, i was talking about HP figures. As to them being weak. But apparently they cut their horsepower figures in half because of emissions? 190hp is something you see out of 4cyl cars.
i think that the mustangs AND camaros of the 60's weighed less than todays versions.....and neither one of them can hold a candle to todays versions.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
190hp out of an 8cyl is weak even for that year, in the 60s muscle cars were making double that power.
Keep in mind that horsepower was rated differently in the 1960s (SAE gross ratings) than it was in the 1980s. Also keep in mind that many engines in the 1960s were rated without driving accessories or with emissions plumbing that the vehicles were assembled with.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Wasn't talking about actual performance we all know the cars of the 60s weighed alot and didn't handle well, i was talking about HP figures. As to them being weak. But apparently they cut their horsepower figures in half because of emissions? 190hp is something you see out of 4cyl cars.
If the rating system was the same in 1985, the 190hp Camaro would probably have been a 350hp model instead.

The Camaro of the 1960's weighed notably less than most later versions, and it did weigh less than the 85 I-ROC with say, a 302 under hood. It was about the same in 1/4 mile testing... The I-ROC surely had more power... or better gearing or both.

190hp is 4cyl. territory today, but back then, you'd be lucky to see 100 in nearly any 4cyl.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Wasn't talking about actual performance we all know the cars of the 60s weighed alot and didn't handle well, i was talking about HP figures. As to them being weak. But apparently they cut their horsepower figures in half because of emissions? 190hp is something you see out of 4cyl cars.
Take all those SAE Gross figures from the 60's and multiply by .8 roughly. As an example back in the 90's one of the car magazines ran a 1994 25th TA (275 hp) against a 69 RA III TA (345 hp). Same day, same track. They were pretty close to even. Also the legendary stuuf fom the 60/70's (Hemi, LS6 and such) were 10.5 and higher compression, solid roller, and required 100+ octane fuel. Just not comparable at all.
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