You post every 15 seconds but still don't know how to multi-quote

 

I am sure he was at some point. I was just laying out the mathematical representation of what 3 tenths and 7 tenths really are. I was just disputing that .3 tenths is right on his bumper, which it isn't. .3 tenths equals 30+ feet on average. These cars are 16 feet long, which would put 14 feet between rear bumper of the lead car, and front bumper of the following car.

 

yea......someday i will. i'm postring from work, as i'm getting estimates ready, keeping my tech busy, and calling customers, so it's actually easier and faster to do it this way for now.

 

you are correct, he was at some point. that point was crossing the start/finish line, at the end of the race, winning by .3 of a second.

 

i guess i should have worded that a little bit better. at turn 5 they were basically even yes, then in 5 turns the ZL1 opens up a 1.7 second gap. if the driver hadn't missed that 2-3 shift (1.15 seconds lost), the gap could have possibly been over a second difference total between both cars at the stripe.

possibly a little over a second difference at the stripe vs the .7 second difference.

that near 5mph difference right before turn 11 shows that the GT500 was playing catch up where it's strongest.

i still think the Boss and the ZL1 are a better match than the GT500 vs ZL1 though.

 

Do you really love GM that much??? The old GT500s can hold up to around 1000whp without touching the motor. Unless you were talking about leaving the GT500 stock, in which case one could spend far less on a fox-body and leave the stock ZL1 in the dust Stock for stock, mod for mod the GT500 has a HUGE advantage at the strip.

 

GT-500 = 1:45.21
ZL-1 = 1:44.53

0.68 difference recorded at the line.

All I was stating was that your assumption that 0.3 seconds is nose to tail is not patently correct. At 30 mph, perhaps, at 100 mph, no chance. I just gave an example based on the average lap speed.


The point of my first long post was that the ZL1 loss at the drag strip, and the GT-500 loss at the 2 mile roadcourse are both statistically significant amounts from a purely racing perspective.

I find the map of the road course posted on page 4 interesting as well. They list what looks like the highest corner and straightline speed differentials.

Corner
ZL-1 54/GT-500 49.2 dif = 4.8 mph

Straight GT-500 129.2/ZL-1 124.6 dif = 4.6 mph

That tells you an aweful lot right there.

Truthfully, I like both of them, and would be happy with the keys to either.

 

This^

 

ye, i'd like to be able to afford one of em.....but alas, i'm stuck with my lowly gt......i think i can learn to live with that.

 

Their 1000hp was not on pump....and probably did'nt last long.

 

You're so blinded by the badge is not even funny anymore. Plenty of modulars have made 1k on stock engines there is no way you can make blanket statements like that (and I don't care enough to go back and research them all).

So the forced induction engine without forged internals is going to last longer on pump at 1k?

The GT500 ford fits perfectly in HIO land except that it's a ford. It's lighter, more mph, and it doesn't need aftermarket engine components; you of all people should be pumped

 

really?... If I put a jet engine in my car I would bitch slap the GT500 too.

And what you have all been waiting for: the ZL1... wins? haha, definetly a biased comparison.
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...gt500_on_road/

 

"Honestly, babe! I know that Mustang just beat the ever living **** out of me from that last stoplight, but I swear I can beat him by a good 3/4's of a second on a closed 2.5 mile road course. Come on...I'll find a Taco Bell so we can turn that frown upside down and get you your favorite Double Decker Taco. Let me check my navigation to see where one is...****."

 

LOL, I dont care who you are, thats funny right there.

 

That's exactly what's been going through my head. I can see someone showing up to the Friday night cruise in around here with their ZL1 spouting off something along those lines, and then getting laughed right out of the parking lot. It's about as bad as Viper owners spouting off Nurburgring times when 99.9% of them will never take their car there, and about 95% of the owners have never seen a road course with one, me included.

 

I spelled course wrong. lol

 

And by law of potato.

Your argument is irrelevant.

 

Flock!

 

Is there a video of the GT500 doing over 200 mph?

 

No but they were close even though elevation was high and the temperature was even higher. The car will do 200 but it takes such perfect conditions on a purpose built track that I could never understand why people care with any car not just this one.