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Old 06-21-2012, 07:29 PM
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bring her over here, and have her lap both cars.

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Originally Posted by Sax1031
honestly I was surprised the GT500 ran faster than an 11.8 on street tires.
So far the best magazine time was 11.6 IIRC, and 129 is the highest trap. I look forward to seeing what this beast can do in negative DA, 130+ traps out of a bone stock $55k car with a full warranty is insane!!
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I did and do think you will see a 130mph+ trap on the hero run/s.
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Originally Posted by gocartone
So far the best magazine time was 11.6 IIRC, and 129 is the highest trap. I look forward to seeing what this beast can do in negative DA, 130+ traps out of a bone stock $55k car with a full warranty is insane!!
wellll ya gotta ad,mit........soonz ford finds out it was on a dragstrip, the warranty's prolly out the window.......
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i find it funny that this "unbiased" writer calls the shelby a rolling pig, when motortrend says this:

Whereas the old car tended to exhibit front-end push, the 2013 displays crisper turn-in, the front Goodyears really biting into the asphalt and responding quickly to steering inputs, allowing you to be more aggressive with the throttle application mid-corner. In comfort mode there's a hint of body roll, but in sport the car stays nice and flat. With all that extra power and torque, it's easy to kick the rear end out, but -- unlike the old car -- when you get the rear loose in the 2013 GT500, its slide is progressive. The last-gen car would start to go, then suddenly it was gone. The 2013 is far more predictable, so it's easier to modulate exactly how far you want to swing the rear out.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1yTknZ2tf

and to thirdgen....that .98g from motortrend? avg. not max. i believe the 1.03 on the zl was max? not avg?
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
wellll ya gotta ad,mit........soonz ford finds out it was on a dragstrip, the warranty's prolly out the window.......
Do you just post to hear your keys click? That has nothing to do with the conversation and 75 percent of your posts offer no value. As fun as this is its not your personal chatroom
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
as much as i even hate to go here.....for this, they both have weight going against em. you guys are thinking 580hp or 662hp weighing in around 3,000-3300# i would imagine.
I know. I personally don't find the numbers we've seen thus far (from either car) to be all that bad considering the temps and weights.
Neither 12.3 (for the ZL1) nor 11.7 (for the GT500) is exactly the norm for bone stock, in my opinion.
I think an 11.9 and 11.5 split is probably a better representation based on what we've seen so far.
Ultimately both cars WILL put up quicker ETs in stock trim in private hands but the Mustang will always be at least 4 to 6 tenths quicker and 6-9mph faster at the same track/same day/all else being equal.





Originally Posted by Sax1031
honestly I was surprised the GT500 ran faster than an 11.8 on street tires.
And it's not done yet either...look for lower half 11s (11.3s/11.2s?) in bone stock trim/stock tires come fall, in my opinion.




Originally Posted by gocartone
So far the best magazine time was 11.6 IIRC, and 129 is the highest trap. I look forward to seeing what this beast can do in negative DA, 130+ traps
Originally Posted by Sax1031
I did and do think you will see a 130mph+ trap on the hero run/s.
And yes, it will crack into the 130s once the good air comes back.
Maybe even a few 131mph passes in stock trim (132+ on a sticky tire in good air).
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I know. I personally don't find the numbers we've seen thus far (from either car) to be all that bad considering the temps and weights.
Neither 12.3 (for the ZL1) nor 11.7 (for the GT500) is exactly the norm for bone stock, in my opinion.
I think an 11.9 and 11.5 split is probably a better representation based on what we've seen so far.
Ultimately both cars WILL put up quicker ETs in stock trim but the Mustang will always be at least 4 to 6 tenths quicker and 6-9mph faster same track/same day, all else being equal.





And it's not done yet either...look for lower half 11s (11.3s/11.2s?) in bone stock trim/stock tires come fall, in my opinion.





And yes, it will crack into the 130s once the good air comes back.
Maybe even a few 131mph passes in stock trim (132+ on a sticky tire in good air).
know what's scary about that? i was only doing 131 in my fiberglass wonder pictured below in my sig.......now of course, that was ALL that car could do well, but still.......
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
Do you just post to hear your keys click? That has nothing to do with the conversation and 75 percent of your posts offer no value. As fun as this is its not your personal chatroom
so my responding to someone who previously mentioned that it was great to have a car this fast with full warranty had more to do with this conversation than my mention of ford killing that warranty when it was found out it was on a track?

get the tampon outta your mouth and you'll be in a better mood.

if ya don't like my ****, don't read it. no one glued your eyeballs opened, and forced you to read that post.
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Sounds like someone has sand in his panties......

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Originally Posted by firebird99
Sounds like someone has sand in his panties......
hey!! stop that!! that has nothing to do with this conversation!! curse you you firebird person!! you forced me to read your off topic reply!!



SPOOOONNN!!!

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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS

Originally Posted by Sax1031 View Post
A 580hp car running 12.38 @ 114mph is far below adequate.

its actually shitty.


i hope someone improves on that.
Tru Dat. The ZL1 is respectable, but the GT500 keeps up on the track, and runs away from the ZL1 like a bad dream in any gear.



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