2007 GTO release info in Hot Rodding
09-03-2004, 07:48 AM
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I'm more worried about how much power they actually dyno and how much they weigh.
They're was alot of complaints coming from the CTS-V owners, they had the LS6 but said the cars dyno'd so low. The GTO's are heavy pigs, I think they probaly would of sold a little better within the racing community if they were a little lighter.
They're was alot of complaints coming from the CTS-V owners, they had the LS6 but said the cars dyno'd so low. The GTO's are heavy pigs, I think they probaly would of sold a little better within the racing community if they were a little lighter.
09-03-2004, 08:36 AM
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After spending some time behind the wheel of a GTO, I say the car is spot with the exception of the weight. You feel it around the curves too much. The car doesn't wallow, but you can feel it working against you. If it's weight was more in line with other 2 door coupes I think it would be a home run. That said the Monaro platform was never designed for a two door coupe, so there are many compromises in the design that aren't ideal for the GTO purpose (my understanding is it's built for light off-road work to cope with Aussie roads). I'm sure a GTO built on a purpose built Zeta platform will be the bussiness. Good things a comming!
Oh and the above said, The currnet GTO with an Ls2 and sticky rubber is going to be a fantastic car I'm sure.
Oh and the above said, The currnet GTO with an Ls2 and sticky rubber is going to be a fantastic car I'm sure.
09-03-2004, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TriShield
I'd also like to say the Australians have a much better grasp on crafting muscle cars than the US has had for YEARS, it's crazy. They properly engineer the entire car, not just the engine, and assemble them much better. They also are treated to a huge variety to pick from, not just whale sized coupes with useless backseats and live truck axles in the back.
I'm glad GM is giving their Australian engineers the task of designing the Zeta for scratch for new global cars, they do a fantastic job of it and leave the US to worry about redoing trucks and SUVs, something we're good at.
I'm glad GM is giving their Australian engineers the task of designing the Zeta for scratch for new global cars, they do a fantastic job of it and leave the US to worry about redoing trucks and SUVs, something we're good at.
I highly doubt the Australians can ANYTHING better on any type of car than the USA.
So far I am not impressed with anything from Australia except "Crocodile Hunter".
09-06-2004, 06:25 PM
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With all the new HP, the people at GTO better change the design if they want to sell very many. The concept is so much better looking than what they are offering us today. I don't know if new look concepts really have a chance or they already have the future designs in place. To compete with the big boys, GTO needs to make a statement, and make it bold.
09-06-2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsetz28
I know I'll probably get flamed, but I like the GTO as it is now. I say put a hood scoop on it and flare the fenders a little maybe and it's good to go.
09-07-2004, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinkaze
Guys this is NOT a GM concept, this is a Hot Rod Magazine concept. Bob Lutz has already said the next GTO will not be retro.
Tony,
Zeta is the derivitive of the Sigma (CTS-V) chassis that the next generation Camaro and GTO will ride on.
-Adam
Tony,
Zeta is the derivitive of the Sigma (CTS-V) chassis that the next generation Camaro and GTO will ride on.
-Adam
09-07-2004, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
Lutz also said that the GTO will be designed in Australia.
That is a crock of dung IMO. If it is gonna have the Pontiac GTO badge then it needs to be designed and built here with American muscle and know how and not some Ausi version.
Sorry..... Had to let off some steam.
That is a crock of dung IMO. If it is gonna have the Pontiac GTO badge then it needs to be designed and built here with American muscle and know how and not some Ausi version.
Sorry..... Had to let off some steam.
And if it wasn't for Aussie versions you would be lost right now with no zeta. And Holden Aussie are teaching GM how to build differnt models of the one platform which saves money which brings in cheaper cars and more high performence cars
If it wasn't for this Aussie Version the GTO would never have got legs to walk again 
09-07-2004, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
I don't like that 
But atleast it looks better than the 2005 Roush Mustang that was released today
Zeta platform? Good. I for one am not happy that the current Goat is based on the same platform as the Cadallic Catera
-Todd
But atleast it looks better than the 2005 Roush Mustang that was released today
Zeta platform? Good. I for one am not happy that the current Goat is based on the same platform as the Cadallic Catera
-Todd
09-07-2004, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TriShield
If you peeled away the badging on any of the old ones you'd find they were simply common Pontiac economy cars.
I'm glad GM didn't go that route for 2004. They chose the best coupe (and one of their best cars period) in their product arsenal to resurrect the name, and it does a damn fine job of it. Now they have their best RWD gurus responsible for the first one working on the next one, and this time it's being engineered to be a GTO as a well as a Monaro.
I'm sure it will distress you and ActionJack to know the man who styled the Monaro is now in charge of styling GM's North American product line up.
I'm glad GM didn't go that route for 2004. They chose the best coupe (and one of their best cars period) in their product arsenal to resurrect the name, and it does a damn fine job of it. Now they have their best RWD gurus responsible for the first one working on the next one, and this time it's being engineered to be a GTO as a well as a Monaro.
I'm sure it will distress you and ActionJack to know the man who styled the Monaro is now in charge of styling GM's North American product line up.
09-07-2004, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
That is some horse
I highly doubt the Australians can ANYTHING better on any type of car than the USA.
So far I am not impressed with anything from Australia except "Crocodile Hunter".
I highly doubt the Australians can ANYTHING better on any type of car than the USA.
So far I am not impressed with anything from Australia except "Crocodile Hunter".
Full Racing Suspension, Racing brakes, race style intiria, half rollcage, 3472.3 lbs. Best 7LT 560 bhp, 780 Nm / 575 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm, Tremec T56 M12 6 speed Manual, And can be registed
. Top Speed 300 km/h / 186 mph +
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.8 s
See what Aussies can do with a U.S donk
09-08-2004, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SlickHolden
Aussie slang for a Engine 
We go have a look at this donk mate, Some look and get worried about that lol
We go have a look at this donk mate, Some look and get worried about that lol
09-08-2004, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickHolden
Live in a box ? Well we slapped together a Monaro Called the HRT427. It never went into production but i'll tell you the features of it.
Full Racing Suspension, Racing brakes, race style intiria, half rollcage, 3472.3 lbs. Best 7LT 560 bhp, 780 Nm / 575 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm, Tremec T56 M12 6 speed Manual, And can be registed.
Top Speed 300 km/h / 186 mph +
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.8 s
See what Aussies can do with a U.S donk
Full Racing Suspension, Racing brakes, race style intiria, half rollcage, 3472.3 lbs. Best 7LT 560 bhp, 780 Nm / 575 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm, Tremec T56 M12 6 speed Manual, And can be registed
. Top Speed 300 km/h / 186 mph +
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.8 s
See what Aussies can do with a U.S donk
That is pretty good
But US of A does better....
09-08-2004, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gloveperson
You ausie guys get all the cool cars
I remember reading about your Taurus. Freakin V-8 or turbo V6
-Todd
I remember reading about your Taurus. Freakin V-8 or turbo V6
-Todd
09-08-2004, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
That is pretty good
But US of A does better....
But US of A does better....
Here some more Aussie cars
First is called the HSV Maloo R8 RWD 285KW.
Second is called the HSV Avalanche XUV, AWD 270KW..
09-10-2004, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SlickHolden
In what way ? cause i have plenty that would knock your socks off dude
Here some more Aussie cars
First is called the HSV Maloo R8 RWD 285KW.
Second is called the HSV Avalanche XUV, AWD 270KW..
Here some more Aussie cars
First is called the HSV Maloo R8 RWD 285KW.
Second is called the HSV Avalanche XUV, AWD 270KW..
These are production cars?
If so, what are some numbers (HP, RWHP, 0 to 60, 1/4, etc)?