ss rally red

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I will take # 2

Toasty

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Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but if they have to sell that many, maybe that implies that the price will be low.

BAD ASS TA WS6

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You are out of your mind. There is no way in hell, NO WAY, GM will sell 160k of these cars a year.

I'm laughing hard right now, and can't believe that comment Lutz made. Come on, everyone and their brother knew about the "new" GTO that came out in '04. My neighbors who know nothing about cars even talked to me about it.

That doesn't mean anybody gives enough of a **** to go out and spend 30k on one. The GTO flopped its first year, and the only people that are going to buy the Camaro with todays gas prices are enthusiasts, and those trying to make a statement.

I'll bet anyone GM won't sell 100k it's first year. Or even second, or third for that matter. No matter how much we love these cars, we are an enthusiast crowd. These cars will never be for the masses.

Dan

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Now I wonder if the bastard is going to give the go ahead to build this car? He busts our ***** for a few months with hiding the car, now he says they have to sell xxxx amount to be profitable..Who the **** is this guys boss? Can his *** NOW..

ss rally red

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Yeah and there were a bunch of peeps on here that said the retro Mustang would'nt sell on here in big numbers either

chaman

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I must say...owned! LOL!!
Lets keep hopes high people, we wanted a Camaro we are almost there.

BAD ASS TA WS6

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The mustang is Americas longest running pony car. The new Mustang appeals to all crowds. First, because of its low base price. And second, because that Retro styling, brings back memories to crowds of all ages. It's a car, that can be enjoyed by all. It sells well to rental companies, woman, men, teens, etc. Thats one thing the mustang will always have.

The only people that said they didn't like the retro styling, were us car guys! You're killing me here man...

Oh, and as for that international sales pitch... Think again! Nobody gives a damn about the Camaro over seas. The Australians might, but I'd bet not enough to make up that 160k car production combined.

Gas overseas has been $5-6 US for some time. Taxes, emissions laws, etc. That all amounts to big money over there, and only the true F-body/muscle car cult guys will fork out the cash to own one. You're thinking is optimistic, and there's nothing wrong with that. But the fact is, GM will not sell anywhere near 150-160 thousand Camaros a year.

ss rally red

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As mentioned in this thread earlier in 79 GM sold over 280K Camaro/Firebirds...less comp. yes I agree,was the product anywhere close to the new concept? No. How many of the the 280K units do you think were Z28's/Trans Ams with V8's & manual transmission cars? I still believe that 160K units a year is not impossible,and if Lutz said that was the number they needed and they thought is was a NO WAY proposition this concept would not exist right? Maybe I am an optimist but the Camaro(Firebird) is an a American Icon, there maybe more support than you know

WECIV

If this cars shares components with the GTO, Holden's, Vette, Solistice, GM RWD Sedan, and they advertise the price, power, and fuel economy (even give it the damnable DoD if need be to make the MPG above 30) then I think that one could easily sale 150,000 of this platform, but not just the camaro.

Hoss Ghoul

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In 1984 almost 400,000 Camaros and Firebirds were sold.
Chevrolet sold 110,000 Camaros in 1994.

BAD ASS TA WS6

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Well remember my name when GM FAILS to meet that number

Buckwheat

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$20k for the base 6cyl. $22k for a 6cyl. ragtop. $25k for a 5.3 (327 sounds retro/cool) rallysport. I think this could generate some big numbers. And then for the likes of us, a special order only Z-28 with an optional LS7 that would ring up to about $45k or @ 8 grand less with an LS2. There you have it....something for everyone.

ss rally red

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Have your quote saved for a later time right or wrong

kws87

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^^^^ This guy has the right idea, car companies need to go back to allowing the consumer to get whatever powertrain they want. Offer two versions of the 6 cylinder and 3 of the V8. Something for everyone needs to be the new motto


*edit* Buckwheat, the guy above that post

Hell'sChariot

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Its great if it does come back, but if its priced like the gto there is no way they will sell that many. (150,000 units) ....and I believe the new designed gto was supposed to be on the zeta platform, so dont hold your breath. But if its price like the mustang....AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE!!!...that will be another story. I remember reading in popular hot rodding magezine that the 2005 mustang sold 144,000 and they were putting more into production because of shortages. For a told of 190,000 unit.

Should be interesting to see what tricks Gm pulls out of its hat......Phoenix rise from the ashes!!!!!!

Buckwheat

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Thanks. In this day and age, there is no reason why you should not be able to spec a car with exactly what you want and have it delivered a week later. The dealers can still stock the popular optioned cars for the impulse buyers as well.

2000WS6Vert

I have no doubt that Chevy can sell 160,000 Camaros per year. The 'older' crowd.....aka the Baby Boomers will eat this car up due to it's retro styling. The younger crowd will eat this car up because of it's 400 hp. The middle crowd will eat it up because they can finally replace their 4th gen with a much better vehicle. The serious racers will buy it because it has a 6.0L and is RWD. Oh...and there will be many V6's sold to women who think it's pretty in (name the color here).

Oh...and with the V8 getting over 30 mpg highway in a low 13 second car that looks THAT mean......please....I'd be happy to spend 30k on a car that I can drive to work daily that has 400 hp, a 6 spd, mean looks and is built in the USA (I hope!).

By the way....on a related note....I recently drove a 99 Z28 (stock 6 spd) from Pittsburgh to Palm Beach, FL where I averaged 80 mph and I got over 28 mpg for the entire trip!!!! That is insane for a performance car.

Super Speed

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That's badass

BAD ASS TA WS6

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I'd like to hope that I'm wrong, for GMs sake. But I couldn't bet against myself like that!

pushinfreight

on a global scale the 160,000 mark is attainable. Just give me something that does not come so close to the vette that it make me think about bying it. You want a real plush ride get the GTO, you want to know what the car is doing with a little stiffer ride and Camaro, lux and crazy performace Vette. It is that dam simple.