http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/...08-challenger/


there have been more than a few rumblings about the challenger, at least at first, coming only with a v-8......this is the first i heard of the 6.6l, but that would be wicked.....it could easily top the mustang gt500s dyno numbers

unlike gm, dodge has no dillusions about competing with the mustang on a volume level.....the only way this project was green lighted was because they can make money selling less than 50k a year(maybe way less).....this is what leads me to believe there really may not be a v-6 version.....

allthough the new 4.0 wouldn't be a bad choice down the road if demand is there....

 

6.6 hemi = just over 404 ci, very cool. I look foreward to seeing the official specs on this thing. It wouldn't suprise me if this car would be rated at 500+ hp.

 

This means the new Vipers are going to be 600+ hp

 

damn i mean damn u have got to put down the pipe man this aint 1970, and while n/a 550+ horses is little high, it is not that far out of the ball park out of the ball park this is 2006 after all. I could easily see this thing with 450 to lets say 470, seeing how the current 6.1 is already putting out 425.

 

Your a goofball.

Some of the older 396's, 440 Magnum, 426 Hemis and 442' Chevy's had over 350 hp and 400+ft lbs easy.

They couldnt put it down right.... Older cars didnt have the tuning, suspensions, and technology we have today.

 

its going to be a limited production car with only a v8 option, no v6's. i guess itll have the same production numbers as the prowler, and will carry a upper 30 to low 40 thousand bill on the window.

 

It most certainly may not hit the 500 mark but it might also, The SRT division has already proven to make well performing cars. So if it makes ya happy it's probably safe to say it'll make at least 425hp

 

... ..." PIPE " ... ... ..............

 

on a serious note....hope it makes alot because I am probably going to buy one.

 

deductive reasoning, genius

mopar has a 6.4l hemi as a crate engine, one that at one point was rumored to be the next "srt" engine, and it puts out 500hp......add .2l to the same type of engine, i'm guessing they aren't going to go backwards

 

I thought the rumor was the viper was skipping 07 and going to the 08 model year with 650 hp to compete with the new supercharged vette that will be coming out. Then that will mean the base challenger will compete with the base v8 camaro and the 6.6l challenger will compete with the ls7 powered camaro and gt 500. Unless gm does throw one of those smaller (than the vettes) supercharged ls engines in the top of the line camaro. Gm has a lot of new engines in developement or is atleast rumored too, like the ls8,9, and X. I think they realized they cant screw this up and that is why they haven't said much about the camaro. I think they are waiting to see what dodge does so they can blow them away.

 

Sounds like a cool MOPAR to me. If GM does not make an LS7 camaro, then Ford's GT500 and this new beast from Dodge will fill the bill.

W

 

I bet the Challenger gets 2 motors at launch, 1. the base 5.7 hemi, and 2. the 6.1 SRT hemi. Although I think they may be bringing back the 383 as a 6.4 Hemi, to replace teh 6.1. I don't know enough about the hemi block to know what kind of work this would take. However, I would like dodge just to make a car that weighs less than 3700 lbs. I mean come on this is supposed to be a sports car, and I have a hard time justifing calling a car a sports car if it weighs in at 4000lbs dry. We can only wait though.

Josh

 

yeah, pretty much everything that comes out is on par with a drunken sailor....

 

it's not supposed to be a sports car.....it's a muscle car......it sure would be nice for it to weigh 3700 punds, but that just isn't going to happen

but if you want the hemi in a car that weighs less, my guess is that you'll get it in the firepower next year

 

At least it will have IRS!!!

W

 

I heard the challenger will get the 6.1L only for the first year of production. I also heard the 6.6L will debut in the redesigned Ram truck. Just rumors, but they come from a good source.

 

Try 4200 lbs. That's how much the concept weighed. I'd say that at most they strip out 200 lbs. so maybe an even 4000 lbs. However all of SRTs previous offerings save for the SRT-4 have been porkers. Even the Viper is kind of a fat *** when you consider it's got a couple hundred lbs. on the competition.

Oh and the 6.4L displaces 392 cubes, not 383. So I doubt Mopar will be resurrecting the 383 moniker anytime soon.

 

Concept didn't weigh-in 4200-lbs. Why? Sheetmetal gurus out of LA built the concept with alot of carbon-Fiber panels and very little sheet-metal. The production vehicle is another story for now.

There is a patent and already been talked about by an insider of a mixture of metal and composite materials bonded together to cut weight by a third of the original to lightened the vehicles. I expect to see this very soon [ZDD platform should be the first to get it].

The 6.6-Liter is not the right size output. Think retro aspect of releasing a bigger moniker motor - 6.9-Liter.

Then we have a Cuda concept rumor now.

 

You don't know what you're talking about. First off there almost certainly will NOT be a new 'Cuda. The Challenger unlike the Camaro and Mustang is planned as a halo car with no mainstream V6 model in mind. Chrysler will not sell two identical halo cars side by side as this would just cannibalize sales. That's the first thing you've got wrong.

Secondly, the concept is stated as being 4100-4200 lbs. on NUMEROUS occassions. You have shown no proof to the contrary. Here are a few sites which list the cars curb weight at over 2 tons. You like every other Mopar fanboy are in denial sir. It's a heavy car, get over it.

Taken from http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html

The concept car has a 116 inch wheelbase, while the other LXs use a 120 inch wheelbase; but it’s a custom-made, carbon-fiber-bodied one-off concept car. The 1970 Challenger was 191 inches long (with a 110 inch wheelbase); the concept is 198 inches, and two inches wider than the original. Built by Metalcrafters, it weighs 4,160 pounds.

Just because a car is constructed of carbon fiber, it doesn't mean it's light. Case in point, the Mercedes-Benz SLR which checks in at 3800 lbs. Other sources which quote the Challenger as being between 4100 - 4200 lbs. include:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...hp&carnum=2577

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews...ept-page3.html

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/dodge/d...er-ar1632.html

Mopar stated that the PRODUCTION VERSION MAY BE LIGHTER THAN THE CONCEPT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND AS YOU STATED. They've indicated that the production Challenger may ride on an even shorter wheelbase than the concept (the concept had a wheelbase of 116 in.) in order to get the cars weight down. They know that people have been complaining about the concepts 2 ton+ curb weight and they want to do everything they can to keep the car competitive with the Camaro and the Mustang. If you can show me PROOF that the concept didn't check in at over 4000 lbs. I'd be very interested in seeing that. Otherwise please check your facts before you post.