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Old 08-12-2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001z
650hp with a lighter car will do very well . Lol so you think the new c6 and zo6 isnt serious
The z06 isn't supercar status.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
The z06 isn't supercar status.
Sooooo whats does a car have to have in order to be considered a "supercar" to me the Vette is a supercar. Does it have to carry a $190,000 price tag?
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
650HP? Won't do.. Supposedly the Viper will use that 650HP number.. I say nudge to 685 and freakin' let the public know GM is serious.
I don't think even the 385 HP C5 Z06 would have any trouble besting a 650 HP SRT-10 Viper on a road course; the arena this car is meant to be raced in.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
The z06 isn't supercar status.
it eats porsches and ***** ferraris, thats good enough for me
Old 08-13-2006, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by LSONE
Z07 is already used by MTI, unless GM is going to pay them for the name, they aren't going to use it.
you also realize there was a Z07 Corvette in the 60s as well as a Z07 package offered in later years. GM will take a giant **** on MTI if they want to try and collect on a name that was never theirs to begin with.
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IF something like this vette were to come out, it would be great news for current C6 owners. a factory heavy duty rear end swap!
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lol

I don't think gm wants the vette to be dubbed a supercar rather we all know the half grand vette has a cult already now making a more higher end vette like the c6 z06 has def had to cut into viper sales and maybe others too, the point is that guys like fast toys and making the best rounded one whether it be more expensive or cheaper than the competition is more likely to be in gm's favor. It's awsome to see such an emphasis on performance. btw my vote goes for z06.r.
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
I don't think even the 385 HP C5 Z06 would have any trouble besting a 650 HP SRT-10 Viper on a road course; the arena this car is meant to be raced in.
So, you really think that a Viper isn't capable on a road course? What arena is the Viper for if not road racing? Off-road??
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Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
So, you really think that a Viper isn't capable on a road course? What arena is the Viper for if not road racing? Off-road??
The v10 in the viper is very heavy and as such so is the nose of the car.

The vette is much more nimble with a much wider power band.

c5 z06s eat vipers in road courses.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
The z06 isn't supercar status.
if it can beat those cars in jus about every category, yea, it is.
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
if it can beat those cars in jus about every category, yea, it is.
Supercar is not just performance.

Prestige is in there too.
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Originally Posted by 2001z
650hp with a lighter car will do very well . Lol so you think the new c6 and zo6 isnt serious
To the general public, a Viper is more exotic and better than any vette. The general public also doesn't care about weight, HP is the name of the game.

Keep in mind 95% of the people who buy these types of vehicles do it for status and impressing others and nothing else.

Try not to be so Vette headstrong guys.
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general public dont know what we know now do they!
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Supercar is not just performance.

Prestige is in there too.

"Z06" is not prestigious to you? Most Porsche, Ferrari, and Lamborghini guys run and hide when somebody says ZOHHH6. And who knows what they would do if they heard a supercharger whine and saw some odd Z07 badges.

Having the respect of drivers of those vehicles is all the prestige i would need.

I hope you are not saying that price matters as far as getting into the supercar category, cuz that would just be ignorant.
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Originally Posted by 97'RS6-BucketTurd


"If the thought of the new 500-hp Ford Shelby GT500 Mustang hedging in on the 505-hp Corvette Z06's territory raises your blood pressure, don't despair:
I won't, I don't think anyone is really the two aren't even close
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
you do know its easy for massive corps to **** on smaller ocmpanies right?
Yes because it was so easy for Ford to get the rights to the moniker GT40 back in 2002. Safir Engineering wanted 40 million dollars from Ford to put the name onto the production car (they allowed Ford to use the name for the concept for free but that was it) and Ford did what??? I'll tell you what they didn't do, they didn't take a **** on a smaller company that's for sure. They went ahead and dropped the 40 from the name and just decided to call it the Ford GT. Then they went and tried to justify it by saying that "oh GT40 was just a nickname, it was always technically called the GT." Yah... riiiight. Classic example of a big company not being able to do **** regarding a smaller company. Ford simply forgot to license the name end of story. If GM wanted to use the Z07 moniker they'd be in the same situation.
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
you also realize there was a Z07 Corvette in the 60s as well as a Z07 package offered in later years. GM will take a giant **** on MTI if they want to try and collect on a name that was never theirs to begin with.
What the hell are you babbling about? Since when did GM offer a Z07 package on the Corvette??? There was a Z-06 package offered in '63 with IIRC 199 examples built. Aside from that the only other Z0x cars offered were the C5 Z06 Hardtop and the current LS7 powered C6 Z06. There has never been a factory Z07 AFAIK. If there had been, GM probably would have licensed the trademark DON'T YOU THINK??? Please show proof because I think you're either full of **** on this one, or severely misinformed. Either that or I along with everyone else missed an entire page in Corvette history.

Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
I don't think even the 385 HP C5 Z06 would have any trouble besting a 650 HP SRT-10 Viper on a road course; the arena this car is meant to be raced in.
Get your head out of your ***. 265hp makes a much bigger difference than 250 lbs. What a retarded thing to say. It's not like the Corvette weighs as little as a Lotus Elise or a Caterham. Maybe on an auto-x course the Corvette would hold an advantage since the Viper wouldn't be able to stretch it's legs (still highly unlikely), but on any decent sized race course a Viper with a 265hp advantage will OBVIOUSLY own a Corvette. By your dumbass notion a non turbo Solstice will rip a C5 Z06 around a road course. At 177hp and around 2850 lbs. it has around a 300 lbs. advantage on the Corvette and is down by 208hp (it is down by less hp than the 385 Z06 is from your supposed 650hp Viper). Now tell me... DOES THAT MAKE SENSE???

Oh, and knock of the blatant post whoring.

Originally Posted by Justin00SS
The v10 in the viper is very heavy and as such so is the nose of the car.

The vette is much more nimble with a much wider power band.

c5 z06s eat vipers in road courses.
Yes this is exactly why the C5-Rs couldn't win at Le Mans until the Team Oreca Vipers left the series.
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Originally Posted by bruddah_man_matt
What the hell are you babbling about? Since when did GM offer a Z07 package on the Corvette??? There was a Z-06 package offered in '63 with IIRC 199 examples built. Aside from that the only other Z0x cars offered were the C5 Z06 Hardtop and the current LS7 powered C6 Z06. There has never been a factory Z07 AFAIK. If there had been, GM probably would have licensed the trademark DON'T YOU THINK??? Please show proof because I think you're either full of **** on this one, or severely misinformed. Either that or I along with everyone else missed an entire page in Corvette history.



Get your head out of your ***. 265hp makes a much bigger difference than 250 lbs. What a retarded thing to say. It's not like the Corvette weighs as little as a Lotus Elise or a Caterham. Maybe on an auto-x course the Corvette would hold an advantage since the Viper wouldn't be able to stretch it's legs (still highly unlikely), but on any decent sized race course a Viper with a 265hp advantage will OBVIOUSLY own a Corvette. By your dumbass notion a non turbo Solstice will rip a C5 Z06 around a road course. At 177hp and around 2850 lbs. it has around a 300 lbs. advantage on the Corvette and is down by 208hp (it is down by less hp than the 385 Z06 is from your supposed 650hp Viper). Now tell me... DOES THAT MAKE SENSE???

Oh, and knock of the blatant post whoring.



Yes this is exactly why the C5-Rs couldn't win at Le Mans until the Team Oreca Vipers left the series.

Comparing the race car's setup to the production car's setup is like apples to oranges.

Try again. Are you new at this debating thing?

Besides. Racing is 90% driver skill. Car setup only helps.
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Comparing the race car's setup to the production car's setup is like apples to oranges.

Try again. Are you new at this debating thing?

Besides. Racing is 90% driver skill. Car setup only helps.
Car setup only helps huh? Racing is 90% driver skill huh? Well then I guess you can't say a Viper makes a better track car than a Corvette since it's almost all driver skill. Are YOU new to this debating thing? My point was that "C5s eat Vipers" around road courses is a stupid generalization. On top of that what kind of Viper are we talking about here. A 1st gen 400hp RT/10 will probably get pimp slapped around a track by a Z06 of any generation. A 3rd gen SRT-10 Coupe or Comp Coupe on the other hand will hand a C5 it's ***. A 2nd gen GTS or ACR would make for a pretty close comparison though. Being specific counts. Again, are YOU new to this debating thing.

Originally Posted by Justin00SS
The v10 in the viper is very heavy and as such so is the nose of the car.

The vette is much more nimble with a much wider power band.

c5 z06s eat vipers in road courses.
Also, do us a favor and check your facts. According to http://www.allpar.com/cars/viper/coupe.html a 3rd gen Viper SRT-10 Coupe has a 49.4/50.6% F/R weight distritbution. Yah real nose heavy alright. Weight distribution has always been a major area of focus for Viper engineers. IIRC the 3rd gen SRT-10 coupe is the closest to a 50/50 weight distribution the Viper has come. Earlier models had a REAR weight bias with numbers sometimes being quoted as high as 46/54 F/R. http://www.vipercentral.com/buy/specs/specs98.htm Vipers have their engines mounted entirely (or almost entirely) behind the front axle for better weight distribution. In fact I could be wrong but I believe their engines are technically considered front-mid mounted but don't quote me on that. I wouldn't want to look like I was trying to pass off my opinion as fact like some people around these parts. Looks like you need to learn how to do your homework before you reply with "facts." I won't even ask anymore because it's apparently pretty obvious that you are new to this whole debating thing.

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