Exxon / Mobile
#41
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Perhaps you can cite your references.
You give hippies alot of credit by insinuating they pull millions of dollars together in order to propagate a fictitious environmental issue. What is their motive? The entire presidential cabinet recieves funding from Exxon, but not a dime from Greenpeace.
Is it surprising that after Bush overthrough Saddam all Iraq National oil was converted back to private corporations including Exxon? 3K US soldiers dead, 25K US soldiers injured, $350 Billion tax dollars later, Exxon has a piece of Iraq oil. Do we ignore the 2M Iraqi citizens that have fleed the country or the estimated 80K Iraqi citizens killed?
It amazes me the (take your pick) anger/fear/frustration demonstrated by anti-environmentalists. If global warming is BS, then why even raise an eyebrow when Greenpeace found Exxon spent $60M between 2000-2006 to debunk? Why not just ignore this thread? Or, is it a knee jerk reaction to get others to become anti-environment?
You give hippies alot of credit by insinuating they pull millions of dollars together in order to propagate a fictitious environmental issue. What is their motive? The entire presidential cabinet recieves funding from Exxon, but not a dime from Greenpeace.
Is it surprising that after Bush overthrough Saddam all Iraq National oil was converted back to private corporations including Exxon? 3K US soldiers dead, 25K US soldiers injured, $350 Billion tax dollars later, Exxon has a piece of Iraq oil. Do we ignore the 2M Iraqi citizens that have fleed the country or the estimated 80K Iraqi citizens killed?
It amazes me the (take your pick) anger/fear/frustration demonstrated by anti-environmentalists. If global warming is BS, then why even raise an eyebrow when Greenpeace found Exxon spent $60M between 2000-2006 to debunk? Why not just ignore this thread? Or, is it a knee jerk reaction to get others to become anti-environment?
Of course the oil companies are going to fight back, they haver to to stay in business. If they didnt the hippies would attemp to pretty much shut them down, well unitl these same hippies cant fly in their jets anymore because gas is gone. I love it, do you think Al Gore is going to give up his lavish lifestyle(private jets, SUV's, big house that consumes lots of energy) to help the earth, nope.
#42
Wasn't trying to imply that it was Bush's fault. He's too stupid to be at fault. Kind of like sending a 5 year old to jail for shooting someone. Whos the dumbass that gave the kid a gun?
In this case, most of the blame in Iraq can be pointed to Dick and Rumsfield directly, and the uninformed american public indireclty. However, the underlying problem is that business and foreign governments can buy politians via lobbiest. This occurs with both Democrats and Republicans. I would not be surprised if Exxon buys democrats also. They are probably cheaper ;-)
I have not resorted to calling you names. With all the mounting evidence from both liberal and conservative institutes, would it be arrogant to assume they are all wrong without investigating it yourself? It only takes about 4-6 hours to read all the arguements agreeing with and dismissing global warming.
In this case, most of the blame in Iraq can be pointed to Dick and Rumsfield directly, and the uninformed american public indireclty. However, the underlying problem is that business and foreign governments can buy politians via lobbiest. This occurs with both Democrats and Republicans. I would not be surprised if Exxon buys democrats also. They are probably cheaper ;-)
I have not resorted to calling you names. With all the mounting evidence from both liberal and conservative institutes, would it be arrogant to assume they are all wrong without investigating it yourself? It only takes about 4-6 hours to read all the arguements agreeing with and dismissing global warming.
#43
Originally Posted by Speedracer
Wasn't trying to imply that it was Bush's fault. He's too stupid to be at fault. Kind of like sending a 5 year old to jail for shooting someone. Who's the dumbass that gave the kid a gun?
In this case, most of the blame in Iraq can be pointed to Dick and Rumsfeld directly, and the uninformed American public indirectly. However, the underlying problem is that business and foreign governments can buy politicians via lobbyist. This occurs with both Democrats and Republicans. I would not be surprised if Exxon buys democrats also. They are probably cheaper ;-)
I have not resorted to calling you names. With all the mounting evidence from both liberal and conservative institutes, would it be arrogant to assume they are all wrong without investigating it yourself? It only takes about 4-6 hours to read all the arguments agreeing with and dismissing global warming.
In this case, most of the blame in Iraq can be pointed to Dick and Rumsfeld directly, and the uninformed American public indirectly. However, the underlying problem is that business and foreign governments can buy politicians via lobbyist. This occurs with both Democrats and Republicans. I would not be surprised if Exxon buys democrats also. They are probably cheaper ;-)
I have not resorted to calling you names. With all the mounting evidence from both liberal and conservative institutes, would it be arrogant to assume they are all wrong without investigating it yourself? It only takes about 4-6 hours to read all the arguments agreeing with and dismissing global warming.
Again I say, ......Here ! Here ! I am glad there is at least a couple of enthusiast who are not right wing wackos .
#47
What's the "Plan?" Bush apparently doesn't have one.
Its funny how neo-cons blindly follow their leader without questioning his direction. There are freedom fighters that lost their entire families to our bombs. Maybe we're the terrorists. Remember that the US is occupying Iraq, not the other way around.
If you feel good supporting his policy (or lack thereof) good for you. How's it feel to be the minority? As far as calling Bush stupid, it aint just liberals. Its conservatives too.
Its funny how neo-cons blindly follow their leader without questioning his direction. There are freedom fighters that lost their entire families to our bombs. Maybe we're the terrorists. Remember that the US is occupying Iraq, not the other way around.
If you feel good supporting his policy (or lack thereof) good for you. How's it feel to be the minority? As far as calling Bush stupid, it aint just liberals. Its conservatives too.
#48
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
What's the "Plan?" Bush apparently doesn't have one.
Its funny how neo-cons blindly follow their leader without questioning his direction. There are freedom fighters that lost their entire families to our bombs. Maybe we're the terrorists. Remember that the US is occupying Iraq, not the other way around.
If you feel good supporting his policy (or lack thereof) good for you. How's it feel to be the minority? As far as calling Bush stupid, it aint just liberals. Its conservatives too.
Its funny how neo-cons blindly follow their leader without questioning his direction. There are freedom fighters that lost their entire families to our bombs. Maybe we're the terrorists. Remember that the US is occupying Iraq, not the other way around.
If you feel good supporting his policy (or lack thereof) good for you. How's it feel to be the minority? As far as calling Bush stupid, it aint just liberals. Its conservatives too.
#49
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
How's it feel to be the minority?
#50
Sad that fellow enthusiasts don't take the time to think for themselves regarding this issue, but swallow one agenda hook, line and sinker. Sad that someone might feel threatened that their livelyhood, hobby, enjoyment etc. is at risk. Sad that corporations like Exxon can manipulate so easily. But, I'll get over it as soon as I click Post Quick Reply.
#51
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Sad that fellow enthusiasts don't take the time to think for themselves regarding this issue, but swallow one agenda hook, line and sinker. Sad that someone might feel threatened that their livelyhood, hobby, enjoyment etc. is at risk. Sad that corporations like Exxon can manipulate so easily. But, I'll get over it as soon as I click Post Quick Reply.
#52
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 32,396
Likes: 1,819
From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Sad that fellow enthusiasts don't take the time to think for themselves regarding this issue, but swallow one agenda hook, line and sinker. Sad that someone might feel threatened that their livelyhood, hobby, enjoyment etc. is at risk. Sad that corporations like Exxon can manipulate so easily. But, I'll get over it as soon as I click Post Quick Reply.
Mostly, it's sad that anyone can be so sure on the root cause of such a misunderstood issue. Frankly, I don't personally know why the planet has recently become marginally warmer than it was, say 50 years ago, but I can tell you this; I'm not going to jump to any alarmist conclusions like you left-wing liberal extremists do, and start blaming cars and big business for everything. You are the same type of people that blame guns and gun makers for killing the innocent, rather then blaming the people that use them for crime…..the same sort of people that blame tobacco companies for people smoking, rather than blaming the people who light up the cigarette. Glad I don't belong to your group.
#53
Why is the ice shelf in greenland getting thicker if global warming is happeneing? Why is it so ******* cold on the west coast right now? There is no overall warming on a global scale.