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Old 10-21-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by WECIV
"From what magazines and Wiki have said, is that this car is a detuned race motor that is easily capable of 650hp. Test have also shown, that it makes peak torque around 1700 rpm."

What motor and what car?

W

Forgot to add, Cosworth was envolved in building this motor.
Old 10-23-2007, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by modmotor
The motor in the new GTR is a detuned race motor capable of sustaining 650hp with ease.

I highly doubt Nissan would offer anything different, considering the old Skylines are good for 700+hp on stock internals. With better head flow and 1.2 liters of displacement more, this should easily be obtainable. Lets not forget, this car is making 500hp with only 10.2 psi.
You can say the same thing about the LS7 that it's a detuned race motor capable of sustaining 650hp with ease. Just look at the C5R and C6R. Both motors made well over 600hp and were able to tear apart the worlds best during the Lemans Race series.

Granted, you can't buy the intake manifolds, and there are some super secret stuff surrounding the motors, but the statement still holds true.

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Any good race motor has secret ****!!!

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Old 10-23-2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Just look at the C5R and C6R. Both motors made well over 600hp and were able to tear apart the worlds best during the Lemans Race series.
You left out something here; these engines made that kind of power severely inlet restricted/choked down (in line with ALMS/Le mans rules). I think Katech may have had them on the engine dyno "opened up" and tuned (just to see what they could do) and they were damn close to 1000 hp!!! This is an NA road race/endurance engine people!!!! NO stinking boost needed!
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
You can say the same thing about the LS7 that it's a detuned race motor capable of sustaining 650hp with ease. Just look at the C5R and C6R. Both motors made well over 600hp and were able to tear apart the worlds best during the Lemans Race series.

Granted, you can't buy the intake manifolds, and there are some super secret stuff surrounding the motors, but the statement still holds true.
The C5R made over 600HP but the C6R is actually only making 570HP. Sadly the ALMS is more restrictive and boring then the previous IMSA GT Championship of the 80's and 90's, back then Nissan was able to get their factory VG30DETT in the 300ZX and boost it to over 900HP in their 300ZX race car. Those were the days....cars competing in the ALMS now including the C6R wouldnt hold a candle to the IMSA GT cars back then...
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Actually you would be suprised the amount of power the LS7.R could be making without restrictions. The engines are built around the restrictions, so basically without the restrictions the engines will make more power. But if Katech were to build the engine with no restrictions in mind the Corvettes would be laying down some incredible power. Just imagine that last year the Corvettes were made to add weight at certain races to give competitors in their class a chance. God help any race team that is forced to race an un-corked and un-restricted built LS7.R, because they wont have a chance.
-Joel

*By the way that racing 300zx looks awesome*
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These folks should be lobbied to stop the restrictions.

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Old 10-26-2007, 08:13 PM
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Here is a vid of it running

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cXKtwWdSink
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Originally Posted by modmotor
Do not need to. Look at the intricate detail Nissan displayed in the pics. Leather rapped dashboard, Center Screen computer able to display g's, boost, water temp, oil etc.... Basically everything about the car is well proportioned.
yes there is a need to. Concept car interiors are always much more flashy with lots more cool features that aren't even intended to end up in the production versions
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I really wasnt that impressed with its runs .. seemed out of shape on the corners to run with the 911's .. seemed fast down the straight but hell they arent draggin it are they ?
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Originally Posted by Mikey-Z-28
yes there is a need to. Concept car interiors are always much more flashy with lots more cool features that aren't even intended to end up in the production versions

FYI the GTR pics are of the production version.
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Super GT GTR










Old 10-30-2007, 04:59 PM
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Usually I don't like making racial jokes, but I think it's outright hilarious how all of the pit crew for that racing GT-R are barely taller than that SLAMMED car. lol

Then again, I'm like '6"2 so there ya go....
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VR38 Engine dyno:


VR38 Engine block:


From a look at the torque curve it appears that the engine managemnet is really limiting the power of this car. Engine also appears to have a nice closed deck design...BRING ON THE BOOST .
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Where'd you get that graph? I can make a graph with Japanese characters and lines and numbers as well. Not doubting the engine's capabilities, but photodump.org doesn't seem to be a very official source.
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Originally Posted by XxGarbSxX
Where'd you get that graph? I can make a graph with Japanese characters and lines and numbers as well. Not doubting the engine's capabilities, but photodump.org doesn't seem to be a very official source.
Its from Nissans official website. I saved it and blew it up then uploaded it on photodump. Heres you go...gonna have to go through some flash to find it though:

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/GT-R/index.html

If you look aroun through there there is even a video of the engine dyno...a buch of other cool stuff.
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Its from Nissans official website. I saved it and blew it up then uploaded it on photodump. Heres you go...gonna have to go through some flash to find it though:

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/GT-R/index.html

If you look aroun through there there is even a video of the engine dyno...a buch of other cool stuff.
It is obviously a very smoothed over graph, but very impressive no matter how you look at it. The fact that it maintains high torque for so long is good, and you always expect good mid range from a properly sized turbo.

I wonder why it drops off so quickly with the torque. That HP number could have been much higher if the torque hung on a but longer and didnt fall off so fast. That is the kind of torque curve you want for a track car, good corner exit acceleration.

Why cant they just stop the game and come out with an english version of the graph, and stop all the specualtion. If the car is really that great, just spill the beans. People will want it anyway.
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Perhaps other parts of the world expect us to read their language...like we expect them to read ours.

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Old 11-01-2007, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WECIV
Perhaps other parts of the world expect us to read their language...like we expect them to read ours.

W
Not when they are trying to sell a product. Go to an ATM and see how many languages there are, GM does foreign language ads- even here.
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ZO6 killer, and an incredible car. The ZR1 will give it a good fight when it arrives.


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